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"Smart" Cyclists

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There was an article in ProCycling magazine that contained an interview with FDJ's Jeremy Roy. The Q&A portion delved into his education, and that he has a master's degree in engineering. Roy explained how difficult it was being a fulltime student and a managing his training at the same time.

Can anyone else think of any other cyclists with degrees really impressive college degrees?

I know ex-Euskaltel rider Jon Bru has an industrial engineering degree, but he is the only other one I can think of.
 
I remember reading articles back in the day about Pedro Horrillo, one of the 'smart' guys. Don't remember the details, but according to Wikipedia, he used to be a philosophy student. I don't know if he actually finished his degree - maybe some of the Spain experts around here can elaborate?
 
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nvpacchi said:
There was an article in ProCycling magazine that contained an interview with FDJ's Jeremy Roy. The Q&A portion delved into his education, and that he has a master's degree in engineering. Roy explained how difficult it was being a fulltime student and a managing his training at the same time.

Can anyone else think of any other cyclists with degrees really impressive college degrees?

I know ex-Euskaltel rider Jon Bru has an industrial engineering degree, but he is the only other one I can think of.

All the Spanish cyclists are licensed gynecologists who practice on the Canary Islands.
 
Jan 7, 2010
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pedro horillo is definitely one of the deep thinkers, wrote a few open letters regarding the treatment of cyclists, here they are:

PEDRO HORRILLO

2007

Mr McQuaid, I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting you personally, although to make things clear from the start, I am not inclined to in the slightest. However, it should not be so, because being the highest representative of our sport, you should be supported and welcomed by all those who are a part of it. But sadly this is not the case.

Maybe at this time you are congratulating yourself on the success of your latest initiative, the famous letter entitled “Rider’s Commitment to a New Cycling” that we have just been compelled to sign by you. And I am not mistaken in using the verb, compel, because many who have signed have done so under duress and threats, the fact is we simply sign, or don’t ride. What seems not to matter is whether the riders are in agreement, or not, whether we have a debate about the issues and whether we work together for a common objective. No, you have simply written the letter without consulting anyone. No, the only thing you care about is that we have signed our names, our ‘agreement’ and that we have jumped through the hoops you have demanded. This is the substance of the issue, although you sell it as otherwise.

Everyone will have their opinion, I've specifically signed the letter, but to me it seems to be the most absurd letter that has lately come from a thinking person. Though if I was to get to the bottom of the matter, I am in favour of tightening up the fight against doping, the scourge that is on track to finish our sport, and I commit myself as a rider to that. But I do not see why as proof of this I should refuse to get paid or give away my wages if I am somehow implicated in a doping scandal. “¿Donde vas? Manzanas traigo” ("Where you going? I bring apples") says the popular Spanish proverb. What is the reason? Where did you get such a brilliant idea from? It seems to me that the reasoning was as simple as ... we will hit you where it hurts most: money. I can assure you are wrong about me, as what it hurt me the most was the fact that I had to swallow my pride to comply with your command, but I know that you do not care about that at all. The fact is that I signed.

And by the way, I signed it knowing that this document is unlawful and undemocratic. That is to say, a useless piece of paper, you have a large collection of useless pieces of paper in a folder, but of course, all signed, as you wanted. Anyway, my most sincere congratulations.

And finally, a wish. I hope that with the departure of the first rider in this Tour de France 2007, your central role is over and from now on the attention will be drawn back to the rightful owners: the riders.

Sincerely,

Pedro Horrillo

Mr. Adams entered my life at the same moment as we started the new year, on January 1st, 2008. To tell the truth, I never approved of him, but he didn't seem to care: he had come to stay and was aware that I knew it. Also, he certainly knew that I could never reject him. Ours has been since then a relationship full of ups and downs – something predictable in any forced relationship- but keeping no secrets at all. I have always told him everything I have done,whom with, where, when, whenever I come and go... Of course it is not the case, but if by any chance it occurred to me, let alone lying to him – that would be really serious – but hiding something from him or telling him just a half-truth – it is the same for me – God help me if he ever finds out ! Then I would be risking the whole family and their bread and butter. Mr. Adam's shadow is very long, extremely long.

So you'd better not take it to heart as living with Adams is not easy at all. That's why we cyclists usually make jokes about the matter and mean to send a message to brother Adams when we think of going to the pictures, for instance. Of course you are free to go out without telling him, although in that case you'd rather pay attention to your mobile phone, select the silence mode and be ready to leave the cinema, may he happen to visit your house. To go to the pictures, for a walk with some friends, play with the kids in the park, have dinner in a restaurant, ....in any situation you like you have to act the same way.

And now a year since our first encounter, in another turn of the screw, Mr. Adams makes me give him daily notice of the exact place and the time that I will be available for him.

If he turns up and I am not there, I will have a big problem, even if my absence is justified.

So that´s how things stand. To begin with, I am of the opinion that random drug testing are one of the most effective ways to fight against fraud. Even though most of them are mere red blood cell extractions for the biological passport program and not doping tests, strictly speaking. But Adams' demands wear me out, they overwhelm and saturate me to the extent that sometimes, out of rebelliousness, I just provide him with the minimum necessary information.

What a rebellion!, you might think. Still I can't nor should complain about it, as we, the cyclists have accepted taking part in that programme and its consequences. And on the other hand, being a sportsperson, I have undertaken the same commitment with my team under contract.

The irony of fate! I started riding the bike because nothing else had ever given me such sense of freedom before. I carried on cycling, free as a bird, and eventually managed to make a living (of it). It is everybody's dream to be able to work in something you love. And all thanks to the bike.

However, I have never felt so inhibited like now when it comes to make decisions. I am not free to improvise in my own life, to hesitate, to make hasty and last minute plans. That is over, freedom is no longer there. Well...not exactly, some people say, you always have the option to get a computer, search for a conexion and voilé! Adams is changed. Or even better, to send an sms. For some people it is basically the same thing, but not for me. If you'll pardon the expression, I call this the being given the third degree.

So that is how it is and far from complaining, I chose to accept it. Given the choice between adapt or die, I prefer the first one, because I want to be a cyclist as long as possible, therefore, I won't pay heed to your attempts to put off my desire to continue, Mr. Adams.

* Adams: Antidoping Administration & Managing System
 
Nov 2, 2009
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I'm pretty sure a number of Australian women cyclists are professionals of one kind or another. One is a doctor. I know there are others who studied by correspondence whilst based in Europe.

I guess they need to be working on some other kind of career even when they race at a top level because they're paid peanuts compared to the men.
 
May 25, 2010
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On the subject of women in sports, a lady here in the (assoc) football national side (Matildas) was selected in the Best XI at World Cup. Next week she was back home working at a petrol station.

Makes you wonder.
 
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RedheadDane said:
I dunno how impressive it is. But there's always Das Panzerwagen who's a cop.

And I think I read somewhere that Laurent Didier has some kind of engineering degree thing too...

Yeah, the Sporza commenators talked about it for like a whole hour during the Tour lol.
 
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Serge Pauwels has a degree in Engineering. Seems to be a theme there.

Not to forget, I am studying for a masters in Physics :)
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Tuarts said:
On the subject of women in sports, a lady here in the (assoc) football national side (Matildas) was selected in the Best XI at World Cup. Next week she was back home working at a petrol station.

Makes you wonder.

Not that much wonder. That is typical of the kind of work that is flexible enough to support a pro athlete's availability.
 
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I know Nuyens can't go 3 sentences without mentioning he went to a university.

Smart in the topic should be replaced with educated. even with the " "'s it's BS ;p
 
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Spare Tyre said:
I'm pretty sure a number of Australian women cyclists are professionals of one kind or another. One is a doctor. I know there are others who studied by correspondence whilst based in Europe.

I guess they need to be working on some other kind of career even when they race at a top level because they're paid peanuts compared to the men.

well it is the oldest known profession :rolleyes:
 
Spare Tyre said:
I'm pretty sure a number of Australian women cyclists are professionals of one kind or another. One is a doctor. I know there are others who studied by correspondence whilst based in Europe.

I guess they need to be working on some other kind of career even when they race at a top level because they're paid peanuts compared to the men.

It's not just the Aussies. Ashleigh Moolman and her husband double up as the medical treatment for many of the women on the road; Christiane Söder gave up her position at the top of the women's péloton because she'd finished a doctorate and was going on to higher academic/research things; Emma Pooley fits her cycling career around a degree in something like astrophysics or something similarly impressive. A lot of the German and Dutch women in the péloton fit their riding around university study because of the university system in those countries enabling them to essentially take as long as they like getting their degrees as long as they can continue to afford it, so they'll do a smaller number of modules subsidising their income with their pro cycling careers.
 
Surprised there aren't more to be honest. Ideal way for anyone without a professional contract at 18 to continue in a lifestyle with lots of free time and flexibility which allows them to train.

I know I only had 2 hours a week nailed down in my diary at Uni, and my brother gets in 20 hours a week of riding in conjunction with a physics degree that reaches the limits of the amount of contact time you'd have at Uni.
 
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ak-zaaf said:
I know Nuyens can't go 3 sentences without mentioning he went to a university.

I think it's less about going to a university than about going to Leuven. He seems smitten with the city.
 
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Spare Tyre said:
I'm pretty sure a number of Australian women cyclists are professionals of one kind or another. One is a doctor. I know there are others who studied by correspondence whilst based in Europe.

I guess they need to be working on some other kind of career even when they race at a top level because they're paid peanuts compared to the men.


If we're including women, then Emma Pooley has an engineering degree from Cambridge University and was (I think still is?) doing a PhD at Zurich University. That probably takes some beating.
 
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caucchioli, who has been banned for violations of the bio passport, was close to degree in pharmacy
 
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clipperton said:
pedro horillo is definitely one of the deep thinkers, wrote a few open letters regarding the treatment of cyclists, here they are:

Very well written letters.

Pedro Horillo wrote for a daily column for a Spanish website during the Tour de France. I remember as I struggled through the Spanish that he really delved into some deep thoughts and ideas, especially regarding his crash in the '09 Giro.

Just read elsewhere that ex-Orbea rider that Mikel Ilundain intends to finish his engineering degree after one last attempt riding as an amateur.