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I couldn't find a howdy forum so I'll say my "hello and thanks for having this forum" here.

I've tried to work with the new CN version; really I have. I check the road section at least once a day and it takes more time to accomplish less than the old layout.

Specifically, the updates are still named by numbered news editions. It was fine when there were usually two of these and one knew to check back for the later update. Now, who can tell?? The headlines above the editions confuse me. They tend either to be part of the previous news updates or to show up in later ones. Why are they there?

:eek:

Worse, the races. I have no idea what evil factoid organizes them but there seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. Not chronological. Not alphabetical. Geographical? I don't think so. Again much time taken trying to find out whether there's a race my team is participating in and have I seen the latest.

Okay. This sounds like a total rant and I don't mean it to. I've just reached the point where I want to comment on my frustration and y'all are getting the pent up energy.

I know the redesign was in response to reader comments; I admit I was irresponsible and didn't participate in that. I'm also pretty sure there must be some readers who like the new version and have no trouble with it.

So I'm not suggesting that my ideas are best or important. But I did need to say I think the best source of news about road racing has gotten a little less wonderful.

Thanks for "listening".

ML
 
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Please post on main thread

Sheepchild said:
I couldn't find a howdy forum so I'll say my "hello and thanks for having this forum" here.

I've tried to work with the new CN version; really I have. I check the road section at least once a day and it takes more time to accomplish less than the old layout.

Specifically, the updates are still named by numbered news editions. It was fine when there were usually two of these and one knew to check back for the later update. Now, who can tell?? The headlines above the editions confuse me. They tend either to be part of the previous news updates or to show up in later ones. Why are they there?

:eek:

Worse, the races. I have no idea what evil factoid organizes them but there seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. Not chronological. Not alphabetical. Geographical? I don't think so. Again much time taken trying to find out whether there's a race my team is participating in and have I seen the latest.

Okay. This sounds like a total rant and I don't mean it to. I've just reached the point where I want to comment on my frustration and y'all are getting the pent up energy.

I know the redesign was in response to reader comments; I admit I was irresponsible and didn't participate in that. I'm also pretty sure there must be some readers who like the new version and have no trouble with it.

So I'm not suggesting that my ideas are best or important. But I did need to say I think the best source of news about road racing has gotten a little less wonderful.

Thanks for "listening".

ML

Thanks for posting here. There is a main thread (about the website). We must keep up the pressure until they sell it to someone that knows about cycling. These turkeys where found by the roadside and have no idea what a website is all about.

Thanks for your post, but go read the 1000 plus pages of the website, we have been saying this since the 15th June
 
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I am bitter. No doubt about it. These are my admittedly bitter thoughts, I apologize ahead of them. Please do not take them personally. To adress your points:

Sheepchild said:
I know the redesign was in response to reader comments...
Was it? Really? I hate being this callous, but I don't recall anyone saying, "I'm fed up with CN as it is! Please, please, make this site into a copy of BikeRadar.com"! Put a carrousel on the front page! Give me "News Headlines" and "News Editions" on the same page! Take away the easy navigation betwen stages of the Tour de France! Please!" Aargh! The frustration! I do not have the impression the site was redesigned in response to reader comments - if anythng *grinning" - I would say it was redesigned in spite of (!) reader comments! : )


Sheepchild said:
I'm... pretty sure there must be some readers who like the new version and have no trouble with it.
I think the vast majority of the people commenting on the subject are upset. From the articles and comments made even on other sites about the subject, I honestly haven't seen anyone say, "Oh my God! What a vast improvement over the old site!" Granted, it looks more modern - with all the Flash and all the small pictures and the tight, compact text - but I believe most people have become accustomed to it out of necessity. Given a choice, I feel pretty confident a majority would prefer, even "love" to go back to the old site! That's just my opinion, of course.

Sheepchild said:
I... need[ed] to say I think the best source of news about road racing has gotten a little less wonderful.
(Sigh) I quite agree...

pedrospeeps said:
Thanks for posting here.

Yes, it's always nice to find someone who adds their voice to the chorus! : )

pedrospeeps said:
There is a main thread ...Go read the 1000 plus pages of the [About the] website [thread], we have been saying this since the 15th June

Like Pedro says, there is a main thread full of comments such as ours. We're a Noah's Ark of people who wish the site would get smarter, cleaner, simpler to navigate! So, thanks for posting and, by the way, welcome aboard!
 
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pedrospeeps said:
Thanks for posting here. There is a main thread (about the website). We must keep up the pressure until they sell it to someone that knows about cycling. These turkeys where found by the roadside and have no idea what a website is all about.

Thanks for your post, but go read the 1000 plus pages of the website, we have been saying this since the 15th June

Ummm. But would you - or THEY - have seen it there? I don't generally approve of starting new threads for existing subjects but it seems to me TPTB might just stop reading the existing thread.

So. Sort of a bump maybe? ;)
 
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manolo said:
I am bitter. No doubt about it. These are my admittedly bitter thoughts, I apologize ahead of them. Please do not take them personally. To adress your points:

Was it? Really? I hate being this callous, but I don't recall anyone saying, "I'm fed up with CN as it is! Please, please, make this site into a copy of BikeRadar.com"! Put a carrousel on the front page! Give me "News Headlines" and "News Editions" on the same page! Take away the easy navigation betwen stages of the Tour de France! Please!" Aargh! The frustration! I do not have the impression the site was redesigned in response to reader comments - if anythng *grinning" - I would say it was redesigned in spite of (!) reader comments! : )


I think the vast majority of the people commenting on the subject are upset. From the articles and comments made even on other sites about the subject, I honestly haven't seen anyone say, "Oh my God! What a vast improvement over the old site!" Granted, it looks more modern - with all the Flash and all the small pictures and the tight, compact text - but I believe most people have become accustomed to it out of necessity. Given a choice, I feel pretty confident a majority would prefer, even "love" to go back to the old site! That's just my opinion, of course.

(Sigh) I quite agree...



Yes, it's always nice to find someone who adds their voice to the chorus! : )



Like Pedro says, there is a main thread full of comments such as ours. We're a Noah's Ark of people who wish the site would get smarter, cleaner, simpler to navigate! So, thanks for posting and, by the way, welcome aboard!


Actually I was trying to be - err sound - moderate with my comments. I do seem to remember the CN folks touting public opinion as they got ready to roll this version out. Could have been the droves of email were ... :D ... TWO!!!

All of your points are well taken and very much agreed with.

Is anyone listening?

ML
 
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manolo said:
... We're a Noah's Ark of people who wish the site would get smarter, cleaner, simpler to navigate! So, thanks for posting and, by the way, welcome aboard!

I like that. Your turn to bail. LOL.

Thanks for the welcome, Manolo.

ML