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Just something Pog related:



He hasn't done an individual time trial in competition since early March (Tirreno). I'm maybe way off the mark here but looking back at all previous TdF winners (Pog included), that seems like an eternity for someone who is favorite to win the TdF (& do well in the ITT's as well... or even smash them).

Dauphiné ITT, Suisse ITT, Romandie ITT & national championship ITT etc. are the usual warm-up races for TdF contenders & winners. It always seemed 'normal' (as much as stuff can be normal in the pro peloton) for Tour contenders to at least test their TT equipment, positioning etc. in an actual race before the TdF.

But as Pog apparently isn't doing the Slovenian National Championships, he's going into the Tour with very little time on the TT bike in a real race this year.

It could be nothing but I still find this unusual.
Isn't Pog also said to not train a TT oriented position on the TT bike since he favours to have more power instead of Aerodynamics?
I thought that was the explanation that was given when a roflstomped Roglic in the final ITT.

Same jubberish as Wiggens being better @ 90% for a whole year then peaking..
 
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Yeah, it's a long time indeed and he's done only 22 km of TTs this year on top of that :eek:
The final 40km ITT is the day before Paris.

My bet? Pog & his team believe they'll A/have won already & B/It'll be down to recuperation anyway.

It's just the TT is a very special discipline in cycling which we're told requires a huge amount of work (wind tunnel testing, equipment, positioning etc.).

It's also the part of Pog's arsenal which shows the highest & lowest spikes in terms of performance. If he was any other rider I'd say he should struggle in the TdF in the ITT (because that would make sense, based on his form so far this year & lack of prior TT racing), but as others have posted, I suspect the complete opposite will happen.
 
It's also the part of Pog's arsenal which shows the highest & lowest spikes in terms of performance. If he was any other rider I'd say he should struggle in the TdF in the ITT (because that would make sense, based on his form so far this year & lack of prior TT racing), but as others have posted, I suspect the complete opposite will happen.
Pog only did short dead flat TTs this year and he did them really well even mentioning that he had his best ever TT watts. Obviously on a rolling TT these watts will be even more valuable in his case. Plus we don't know if he didn't practise TT during training (it's possible, opposite to stage races one doesn't need a company in this case).
 
Yeah, this is what I'm getting at.

His time trialling is the obvious elephant in the room. A bit like Contador in 2009. Basically a mundane "okay" TT rider becomes God at the TdF when he's juicing it. Pog's TT is mundane as well... except in the TdF.

It's a shame really because even just for the sake of appearances he should put more effort into the overall 'presentation' of himself as the new superman of modern cycling, instead of leaving these "WTF" isms which have no explanation other than clinical.
 
Yeah, this is what I'm getting at.

His time trialling is the obvious elephant in the room. A bit like Contador in 2009. Basically a mundane "okay" TT rider becomes God at the TdF when he's juicing it. Pog's TT is mundane as well... except in the TdF.

It's a shame really because even just for the sake of appearances he should put more effort into the overall 'presentation' of himself as the new superman of modern cycling, instead of leaving these "WTF" isms which have no explanation other than clinical.
I'm anticipating whatever level of BS the team wants to spout. I'm also anticipating he will obliterate everyone, even after sandbagging in Slovenia.

For what it is worth, I think everyone who does well in a time trial does some training on their time trial bike. That includes van der Poel. But that doesn't change your point about less amazing time trial results in other events during the year. I simply don't buy what Pogacar and UAE are selling.
 
His less amazing time trial results are 3rd and 4th on power courses in WT level stage races this year.

Many riders would like to be this "mundane" .
He doesn't need to practice time trials, he just wills himself faster than everyone else, and then smiles and plays rock paper scissors. It's all good, there's absolutely nothing to see here
 
Lutsenko looks like a shell of the classics rider turned gc rider that we saw last season. Maybe it's related to people not getting payed regularly at Astana atm, but with him being their big Kazakh star he's probably one of the few who's still getting his money on a regular basis.
 
Yeah, this is what I'm getting at.

His time trialling is the obvious elephant in the room. A bit like Contador in 2009. Basically a mundane "okay" TT rider becomes God at the TdF when he's juicing it. Pog's TT is mundane as well... except in the TdF.

It's a shame really because even just for the sake of appearances he should put more effort into the overall 'presentation' of himself as the new superman of modern cycling, instead of leaving these "WTF" isms which have no explanation other than clinical.
I think we all forgot that he did a 50 km ITT at Strade :p Such a performance should be enough in France.
 
Just something Pog related:



He hasn't done an individual time trial in competition since early March (Tirreno). I'm maybe way off the mark here but looking back at all previous TdF winners (Pog included), that seems like an eternity for someone who is favorite to win the TdF (& do well in the ITT's as well... or even smash them).

Dauphiné ITT, Suisse ITT, Romandie ITT & national championship ITT etc. are the usual warm-up races for TdF contenders & winners. It always seemed 'normal' (as much as stuff can be normal in the pro peloton) for Tour contenders to at least test their TT equipment, positioning etc. in an actual race before the TdF.

But as Pog apparently isn't doing the Slovenian National Championships, he's going into the Tour with very little time on the TT bike in a real race this year.

It could be nothing but I still find this unusual.
Might have to request a 18km TT or so next year in Tour of Slovenia
 
Yeah, this is what I'm getting at.

His time trialling is the obvious elephant in the room. A bit like Contador in 2009. Basically a mundane "okay" TT rider becomes God at the TdF when he's juicing it. Pog's TT is mundane as well... except in the TdF.

It's a shame really because even just for the sake of appearances he should put more effort into the overall 'presentation' of himself as the new superman of modern cycling, instead of leaving these "WTF" isms which have no explanation other than clinical.
Contador holding off Cadel Evans in the TDF was already a bit of joke tbh
 
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Lutsenko looks like a shell of the classics rider turned gc rider that we saw last season. Maybe it's related to people not getting payed regularly at Astana atm, but with him being their big Kazakh star he's probably one of the few who's still getting his money on a regular basis.
Thats more due to the fact that he cant stop crashing. Really strong during the start of the season. Lost his entire classic season due to a broken collarbone, and also crashed so hard that he ruined his entire suisse race. If he stays upright during the tour i expect a 5-7th in gc.
 

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