Is there already a Nys thread?will10 said:Would there have been a Nys thread if he'd won?
We could have bumped a Leinders thread in that case, after all, Nys has repeatedly expressed his admiration for Leinders.will10 said:Would there have been a Nys thread if he'd won?
I'm sorry, you clearly are a hundred times the cyclist I am, but that's a funny quote.Cloxxki said:In my time I rubbed elbows with these guys, at the start and when lapped. Nys, Vervecken, etc.
I think you're underestimating the importance of 'cross in Belgium...barn yard said:i would guess that a worldtour team would have a much larger budget and thus a much more extensive medical program than an organization that only races cyclocross
yep, I don't think Nys lives in a shed during his training stints on Majorca. Neither does Stybar of course.JMBeaushrimp said:I think you're underestimating the importance of 'cross in Belgium...
Cheers.spalco said:I'm sorry, you clearly are a hundred times the cyclist I am, but that's a funny quote.![]()
You mean how he shows up to race for the podium for months at a time? I'm not going to put my hand in the fire for Nys. No way. (Lienders @ Rabbo) But, the results are so incredibly consistent, if he's oxygen vector doping, it's better than Sky's transformations.Jordbaer said:Of course Nys is incredibly suspicious.
Styby was a World Champion 'crosser before he transitioned to road. He had an excellent 2013, so a few weeks prep is likely sufficient for a run at the podium. Today's conditions were good for Styby.Jordbaer said:But Stybar coming from the road and completely overpowering everyone means that the training/doping is different. What are the differences?
Ex. Mourey from France. His 2014/13 National Championship race was eventful, but he outclasses his nearest countrymen on a tough course and has for years.Cloxxki said:There are national champions fighting to not get lapped. Really gifted and dedicated riders who decide to ride clean.
I would say its about the same. 4-5 months of excellence and then nothing.DirtyWorks said:You mean how he shows up to race for the podium for months at a time? I'm not going to put my hand in the fire for Nys. No way. (Lienders @ Rabbo) But, the results are so incredibly consistent, if he's oxygen vector doping, it's better than Sky's transformations.
There really is no doubt the Belgians have great influence over the UCI. Evidence #1 is the Boxer Day Elite race that most international riders simply will not attend. So, again, there's no way I'm saying the Belgians are universally clean. But, there aren't the ridiculous mid-field podium raids we see in grand tours in cyclocross.
Styby was a World Champion 'crosser before he transitioned to road. He had an excellent 2013, so a few weeks prep is likely sufficient for a run at the podium. Today's conditions were good for Styby.
The last miracle transformations in 'cross were http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/szczepaniak-brothers-positive-for-epo-at-cyclo-cross-worlds A mid-field podium raid!!!
Wasn't able to see the race over here (time difference and finding a stream is hard too) but is it possible that Stybar was a little fresher at the end thanks to a full classics season and a GT in the legs? It makes sense that he should be able to outlast these guys if he's sharp enough on a less technical course.Afrank said:He didn't really "overpower" everyone. He was trading blows with Nys for much of the race and in the final managed to take advantage of some mistakes Nys made and went away with it. Both looked pretty equal in strength, and like they were both going all out, to me.
cyclingtorrents.nl42x16ss said:Wasn't able to see the race over here (time difference and finding a stream is hard too)
I'm not sure the top crossers make more money when they transition to the road. There was a story earlier in the year Stybar was offered high 6 figures to return to cross; with race purses and endorsements this easily exceeds 7 figures which is a lot more than Stybar gets on the road. If anything top crossers go to the road for love of competition.Cloxxki said:Lars Boom is also one that let cross for road err I mean money.
Because they are paid to race cyclocross? Nys qualified for the Olympics on the MTB and rode. Like many of his compatriots, they race after the 'cross season, but at lower ranked events and do just fine.Dazed and Confused said:I would say its about the same. 4-5 months of excellence and then nothing.
Check Stybar's 2013 results. He's not mediocre.Cloxxki said:It's an odd sport, that the riders are SO fast, and then mediocre road pro's show up and blow them away.
Cloxxki said:Cheers.
I am quite gifted actually, in a purely genetic sense
According to my trainer (one year, I paid him from my day job) and the medical test doc, I tested quite high in terms of wattage
Cloxxki said:It's an odd sport, that the riders are SO fast, and then mediocre road pro's show up and blow them away. Lars Boom is also one that let cross for road err I mean money.
Yeah, we know nobody would ever dope for a u23 CX world championship. Just ask those polish dudes.Flamin said:![]()
And Nys makes much more money than Boom
Btw, your story is touching. Guys like Van Aert and Van der Poel must be hardcore dopers at age 18/19 as well then.
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