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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Veneration / Adoration

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In italiano here
Today Mattia keeps the water bottle (still full of water and with the vitamin gel attached) as if it were a relic. He keeps it inside a perfectly airtight plastic bag. «We have already ordered the display case in which we will carefully preserve it» confess father Simone and mother Barbara laughing, but in the meantime Mattia always keeps it with him.
«His place, for the moment – he explains – is on my bedside table. It's the last thing I look at before falling asleep and continues to dream about it at night. It still doesn't seem true : it's the best gift I've ever received."
 
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Pogi has never done a GT double before, lets first see on how that goes. On top of that he was in great form through whole spring campaign. There are limits involved, even when it comes to Pogi. So in my opinion Olympics participation will come down to form and freshness left. We'll see.

I think this makes a lot of sense. He also has eyes on Worlds and he could perhaps decide that keeping the form going through the Olympics makes it too hard to be at top level 7 weeks later.

Then again, he usually does that at Lombardia, however, he seems a bit less lethal there than in the rest of the season.
 
Not only Pog but all the peloton doesn't get paid enough.

I mean, let's go over the whole supply and demand details and focus on the sport. It's liekly the toughest sport there is coupled with the most random causes for crashes or misgivings. In the overall sports scene they are the low-class.
I wouldn't say they're low-class. Especially Pog, who already earns €6 million a year. The advantage for cyclists is that they can choose where they want to live and move to a low-tax country like Monaco or Andorra. It makes a big difference not having to give half your earnings to a corrupt government.
 
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I like to check bookies before a GT and he is the overwhelming favourite. It is scary to think bookies think he has almost the same odd to win Tour than he had for the Giro. Before the Giro, he was at 1.22 (22bet), now 22bet are giving him 1.30 to win the Tour. They are not counting on Vingegaard to race the Tour, let's see how Pogacar's odd will oscilate with Vingegaard's presence.
The second favourite is Roglic with 5.5.
The third favourite is Remco with 9.
 
I like to check bookies before a GT and he is the overwhelming favourite. It is scary to think bookies think he has almost the same odd to win Tour than he had for the Giro. Before the Giro, he was at 1.22 (22bet), now 22bet are giving him 1.30 to win the Tour. They are not counting on Vingegaard to race the Tour, let's see how Pogacar's odd will oscilate with Vingegaard's presence.
The second favourite is Roglic with 5.5.
The third favourite is Remco with 9.
I’m not knowledgeable enough about bookmaking for bike racing, but in other sports the odds reflect not only the actual chances of said rider to win, but also an offset re: how people are betting (or are likely to bet). From a purely a gambler’s point of view Vingegaard and perhaps Remco are risky bets because their injury status is still mostly unknown, and so less money would be put on those two.
 
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I’m not knowledgeable enough about bookmaking for bike racing, but in other sports the odds reflect not only the actual chances of said rider to win, but also an offset re: how people are betting (or are likely to bet). From a purely a gambler’s point of view Vingegaard and perhaps Remco are risky bets because their injury status is still mostly unknown, and so less money would be put on those two.
Yes the bookies will follow the money flow in the odds - that's primarily how they allocate the risk to them (they still obviously prefer a favourite not to win). I'd suggest the latest odds merely reflects and influx of wagers on Pog post his Giro domination.
 

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