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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Gonne be fun to see another double attempt again been a while since the great Froome did it.

I have my doubts from history alone and all that blabla and personally think the double presents challenges exceeding X' and O's but if theres anyone doing it its him ofc. Gonne be fun to see how much his performance drop if its at 90% i believe it maby is enough tho i have no idea. Gonne be fun to see
 
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Maxtin upbeat about the team and Pogacar saying he wasn't tired after the Giro and that there's absolutely nothing negative. He also stays at altitude until Monday (three days longer than was stated before), which is probably good news regarding his post-Giro recovery and form.

from the article he went to Isola at 4 juni and gonne go home 24?

Whats the reason for the extra stay was it duo to taking longer time to recover than anticipated or just want more km in the legs i guess are essential there but if they say nothing is negative I guess its posetive.
 
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from the article he went to Isola at 4 juni and gonne go home 24?

Whats the reason for the extra stay was it duo to taking longer time to recover than anticipated or just want more km in the legs i guess are essential there but if they say nothing is negative I guess its posetive.

Yup, 4-24 June. After the Giro it was said till Friday, 21 of June IIRC (but maybe they started one day later, 4th instead of 3rd, which was maybe the initial plan).
 
from the article he went to Isola at 4 juni and gonne go home 24?

Whats the reason for the extra stay was it duo to taking longer time to recover than anticipated or just want more km in the legs i guess are essential there but if they say nothing is negative I guess its posetive.
My guess would be a longer stay at altitude wouldn't be for recovery. Altitude doesn't enhance that in any way. If he's responding well to intervals or he's rested enough to polish off some long efforts he probably is just doing extra-credit preparation.
 
My guess would be a longer stay at altitude wouldn't be for recovery. Altitude doesn't enhance that in any way. If he's responding well to intervals or he's rested enough to polish off some long efforts he probably is just doing extra-credit preparation.
I thought maby they wanted to stay longer duo to the start of the camp he needed to recover a bit longer than anticipated before beeing able to push at normal levels and therefor beeing longer kinda thing. But yeah your properly right, it make sense.
 
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I thought maby they wanted to stay longer duo to the start of the camp he needed to recover a bit longer than anticipated before beeing able to push at normal levels and therefor beeing longer kinda thing. But yeah your properly right, it make sense.

They want über-form for the Tour. Their assumption must be that an in-form Vingo could be their main rival.
 

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Several days ago Gianetti said that he would be in the concentration until 4-5 days before the Tour, it may have been the plan from the beginning but the media did not know 100% of the information.
 
Maxtin upbeat about the team and Pogacar saying he wasn't tired after the Giro and that there's absolutely nothing negative. He also stays at altitude until Monday (three days longer than was stated before), which is probably good news regarding his post-Giro recovery and form.

The GOAT GOAT GOAT.
 
Read somewhere their getting Jhonathan Narvaez? He might be a huge piece for Pogacar in MSR if its even doable with how easy the ''climb'' is.
Is it just rumours? Great pickup for Pogacar if its true he can be the last pull maby with Wellens before Pogacar launch at Poggio, Narvaez skills should suit that.
Those dorks running the team will keep selecting climbers over Bjerg and Politt for MSR anyway...
 
Those dorks running the team will keep selecting climbers over Bjerg and Politt for MSR anyway...
Agree those better fit with Wellens and Narvaez if hes coming? He just need someone to pull for crazy watt, punchy for a decent time like I think Narvaez may be able to do so everyone is on their limit before he goes thermonuclear as the drag from sitting on the wheel is huge on that declines/speed.
 
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The mind games continue with ... grub! (and having 15 chefs!)
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...trition-specialist-on-tadej-pogacars-weakness
In 2020 and 2021 Pogacar won the Tour, in 2022 and 2023 the title went to the calm Dane. Both times it turned out Pogacar underestimated his nutritioning. This year, Pogacar logically seems to have the advantage, although this may not be the case in terms of nutrition. "I don't think Pogacar's team is close to our system, to be honest," says professor Asker Jeukendrup at NOS.
original article at https://nos.nl/artikel/2525225-het-...t-dat-pogacar-in-de-buurt-zit-van-ons-systeem
 
Visma guys are so arrogant. Can't tolerate them anymore... they speak like other teams are amateur and only them are professional.
Unchained episode 2 (Tourmalet stage) shows a clip of Niermann laughing maniacally when their team dropped…. O’Connor. That just reaffirmed all my negative emotions towards the guy. Lack of class and lack of respect towards the peloton IMO. I understand you let such emotions show when you drop Pog, but O’Connor? It couldn’t be anything but pure schadenfreude… TBH, Jonas must be quite a nice guy to be able to keep his composure in such environment…
 
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Unchained episode 2 (Tourmalet stage) shows a clip of Niermann laughing maniacally when their team dropped…. O’Connor. That just reaffirmed all my negative emotions towards the guy. Lack of class and lack of respect towards the peloton IMO. I understand you let such emotions show when you drop Pog, but O’Connor? TBH, Jonas must be quite a nice guy to be able to keep his composure in such environment…

It's a result of traumatic experiences, mainly PDBF in 2020. I'll be worried about Grischa if his Wunder Kid doesn't show the world who's the strongest this year. Pogi's double would be a huge trauma for the poor man.
 
The situation is quite different though. That was 4th GT in a row for Froome (Tour+Vuelta, Giro+Tour) in which he was competing for the win.
True and indeed but there will always be somewhat different scenarios in these things wont it?

Also remember Contador also trying it, he imploded more. Im just under the belief its way more than X's and O's at some point the body stop recovering from the efforts to a lesser degree like its usually does and it impacts everything etcetc.

Wasnt Contador and Froome with Froome the latest who tried it who won the Giro or am I missing someone here?