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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Let’s look at it this way. What races today would Merckx realistic win in his peak form?

That idea only makes sense if you teleport him in this era and give him access to modern training, nutrition and rest.
Vice versa, teleportating Pogacar into Merckx era would only serve a purpose in comparison if he'd have to to this eras training, nutrition, race load etc.
Ofc you can wonder what Merckx from the 70ies would do, but what would we learn from that?
Btw.: is there any knowledge on how many watts he could push? Also with the racing schedule, what kind of peak are we talking about?
 
Let’s look at it this way. What races today would Merckx realistic win in his peak form?
You must consider the evolution of the sport, not only in terms of science and technology, but talent scouting, globalizzation, etc. The pool in the late 60s/early 70s was pretty much limited to continental riders, with the obvious exceptions. Put Merckx in with today's group and, due to his size and structure, he would probably have a hard time keeping up in the mountains or in the TTs with the likes of those at the top today. He was not the dominat climber in his day, but had exceptional performances. Would the benefits, but also the resultant tougher competition, of that evolution allow him to obtain today a superior level of Pogacar? This is an open question. In essence did Merckx have the same capacity (I intentially avoid the word "talent", because science has taken over) as Pogacar now (and we could throw in the various Vingegaards and Evenepoels)? In short, did Merckx have the same power and endurance, minus the sport's evolution, as the Bigs of today? That is the question.
 
You must consider the evolution of the sport, not only in terms of science and technology, but talent scouting, globalizzation, etc. The pool in the late 60s/early 70s was pretty much limited to continental riders, with the obvious exceptions. Put Merckx in with today's group and, due to his size and structure, he would probably have a hard time keeping up in the mountains or in the TTs with the likes of those at the top today. He was not the dominat climber in his day, but had exceptional performances. Would the benefits, but also the resultant tougher competition, of that evolution allow him to obtain today a superior level of Pogacar? This is an open question. In essence did Merckx have the same capacity (I intentially avoid the word "talent", because science has taken over) as Pogacar now (and we could throw in the various Vingegaards and Evenepoels)? In short, did Merckx have the same power and endurance, minus the sport's evolution, as the Bigs of today? That is the question.
Merckx would not win half of his wins in this era but I can't know how good he was because he raced 50 years ago. We have an all new sport right now and Merckx was the best of his generation while Pogacar is the best of his generation. I just appreciate what I am witness and this young man is a hell of a rider!
 
Merckx would not win half of his wins in this era but I can't know how good he was because he raced 50 years ago. We have an all new sport right now and Merckx was the best of his generation while Pogacar is the best of his generation. I just appreciate what I am witness and this young man is a hell of a rider!
That's been stated since the 1980s, still Merckx won 5 Tours, 5 Giros and a Vuelta, 7 MSR, 2 Flanders, 3 PR, 5 LBL, 3 Worlds and 2 Lombardia, so anyway you cut it that's pretty damn good. He looks pretty damn good too here.
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Merckx would not win half of his wins in this era but I can't know how good he was because he raced 50 years ago. We have an all new sport right now and Merckx was the best of his generation while Pogacar is the best of his generation. I just appreciate what I am witness and this young man is a hell of a rider!
How do you know that?

You can't all rewrite history, it's almost like some "woke" thing here.

He is the GOAT of this sport like Michael jordan is the GOAT of basketball, this is nothing about being the best of each generation.
 
Definitely. He will follow the usual building up to get to the top in two weeks. A bit like he does for the italian classics, which starts "slowly" as a human being to reach the alien mode . But with these legs it would already be enough. Psychologically today has already dealt a first tough blow to his opponents.
Yes, he knows how to peak for a race. This is not his mutant shape yet.