Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[tobydawq]

In 2023 yes. Totally sheer power on Kwaremont. I believe if Remco is dropped, gap will not be under 40 seconds at the finish line

Yes, because Remco always rides like a turd when he is on his own on a flat road (I'm not calling Mathieu a turd btw).

It may be that he is dropped, but Pogi really needs to go full to keep him from catching back on.

 

[Berniece]

In 2023 yes. Totally sheer power on Kwaremont. I believe if Remco is dropped, gap will not be under 40 seconds at the finish line

My bad, indeed 2023. OK, if that's your definition of slaughtered, then maybe yeah. I don't share that definition. Strade Bianche that was a slaughtering.

 

[Peyroteo94]

My bad, indeed 2023. OK, if that's your definition of slaughtered, then maybe yeah. I don't share that definition. Strade Bianche that was a slaughtering.

Different opinions.

 

[Berniece]

Different opinions.

It's just that if beating MVDP by 16s is slaughtering him, I don't know what superlative you'll be using for his Strade Bianche performance.

 

[Salvarani]

GOAT

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's just that if beating MVDP by 16s is slaughtering him, I don't know what superlative you'll be using for his Strade Bianche performance.

MVP was destroyed on Kwaremont. It looked like Indurain dropping his rivals in the high mountains. Pogacar didn't get out of the saddle one single time and you can see how much more power he was generating compared to MVP

 

[Berniece]

MVP was destroyed on Kwaremont. It looked like Indurain dropping his rivals in the high mountains. Pogacar didn't get out of the saddle one single time and you can see how much more power he was generating compared to MVP

Not getting out of the saddle? How many people do you see ride out of the saddle on hilly cobbles? That has nothing to do with his sheer power, that has to do with you needing to put weight on your back wheel because otherwise you'll slip. You don't have the same amount of grip on cobbles as you do on asphalt.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not getting out of the saddle? How many people do you see ride out of the saddle on hilly cobbles? That has nothing to do with his sheer power, that has to do with you needing to put weight on your back wheel because otherwise you'll slip. You don't have the same amount of grip on cobbles as you do on asphalt.

You're right but it has everything to do with sheer power. MVP was in Pog's wheel and you can see how he was suffering there

 

[tobydawq]

MVP was destroyed on Kwaremont. It looked like Indurain dropping his rivals in the high mountains. Pogacar didn't get out of the saddle one single time and you can see how much more power he was generating compared to MVP

When did Induráin ever drop his rivals in the high mountains?

 

[snipeheem]

When did Induráin ever drop his rivals in the high mountains?

La Plagne

 

[Peyroteo94]

When did Induráin ever drop his rivals in the high mountains?

La Plagne for example

 

[Peyroteo94]

La Plagne

You were first...

 

[Pantani_lives]

When did Induráin ever drop his rivals in the high mountains?

Hautacam '94 (Luc Leblanc doesn't count as a rival.)

 

[Peyroteo94]

Hautacam '94 (Luc Leblanc doesn't count as a rival.)

Some People underestimate Indurain's ability to climb. He is the only rider to win 5 Tours in the modern cycling (if you want, you can count LA) and the only rider to win multiples doubles in a season since Hinault. He was a freak!

 

[Cookster15]

When did Induráin ever drop his rivals in the high mountains?

Very surprised you don’t know? Yes, 1994 Hautacam stage Indurain rode off the front from everyone including Marco Pantani and his big rival Tony Rominger. It doesn’t get any more emphatic than that.

Another example was 1993 TdF stage 10 to Serre Chevalier - riders like Bugno and Chiappucci were destroyed by minutes on the Galibier. Only Rominger and Colombian pure climber Alvaro Mejia hung with Indurain.

It was actually amusing back then reading or hearing all these claims it was impossible for Indurain to beat little climbers in the big mountains. Then Big Mig made fools of them all with his sheer power.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Very surprised you don’t know? Yes, 1994 Hautacam stage Indurain rode off the front from everyone including Marco Pantani and his big rival Tony Rominger. It doesn’t get any more emphatic than that.

Another example was 1993 TdF stage 10 to Serre Chevalier - riders like Bugno and Chiappucci were destroyed by minutes on the Galibier. Only Rominger and Colombian pure climber Alvaro Mejia hung with Indurain.

It was actually amusing back then reading or hearing all these claims it was impossible for Indurain to beat little climbers in the big mountains. Then Big Mig made fools of them all with his sheer power.

No one can ever question Indurain's ability to climb. His ability to maintain a huge tempo during minutes and minutes is unmatched. A total freak

 

[CyclistAbi]

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[James M]

The explanation for that is it wasn't remotely flat.

As excellente as Remco is and all be it the closest to Pogacar he is no where near and nor is anyone else in the history of the sports so its not saying anything against Remco in a bad way....Sometimes for some of the poeple on this forum watching as much cycling as they do their pretty clueless.

Pogacar is in a league completely alone

 

[Krzysztof_O]

5 favourites for the 2024 UCI men's road worlds - Canadian Cycling Magazine

The fight for the rainbow jersey goes down on Sept. 29 and should be an incredible battle 5 favourites for the men's road worlds

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Isn't Rogla a better one-day racer than Pogi though?

 

[James M]

Have poeple checked the odds on Pogacar to win haha? I mean the odds in a field stacked with Van der Poel and Remco.

Boy wonder of the century is just different.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Isn't Rogla a better one-day racer than Pogi though?

He is.

 

[James M]

He is.

for people watching so much cycling and having so little awereness is amazing.

Roglic isnt even close to Evenepoel let alone Pogacar. Lets face it Roglic never been 5% of what Pogacar has become and is.

I just wonder how you expect to be taken seriously at all when your this well find the word yourself thats the real question.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Have poeple checked the odds on Pogacar to win haha? I mean the odds in a field stacked with Van der Poel and Remco.

Boy wonder of the century is just different.

1,72. Massive favourite to win!

 

[Peyroteo94]

for people watching so much cycling and having so little awereness is amazing.

Roglic isnt even close to Evenepoel let alone Pogacar. Lets face it Roglic never been 5% of what Pogacar has become and is.

I just wonder how you expect to be taken seriously at all when your this well find the word yourself thats the real question.

He is kidding

 

[tobydawq]

He is.

Wtf...