Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[tobydawq]

Very surprised you don’t know? Yes, 1994 Hautacam stage Indurain rode off the front from everyone including Marco Pantani and his big rival Tony Rominger. It doesn’t get any more emphatic than that.

Another example was 1993 TdF stage 10 to Serre Chevalier - riders like Bugno and Chiappucci were destroyed by minutes on the Galibier. Only Rominger and Colombian pure climber Alvaro Mejia hung with Indurain.

It was actually amusing back then reading or hearing all these claims it was impossible for Indurain to beat little climbers in the big mountains. Then Big Mig made fools of them all with his sheer power.

I am too young to have watched it live and have never gotten around to watching videos of those Tours as I've been told how boring they were because he never won a mountain stage during his reign and always won the Tours through emphatic TTs.

And still I wouldn't really expect to get a Kwaremont feeling from watching it...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I am too young to have watched it live and have never gotten around to watching videos of those Tours as I've been told how boring they were because he never won a mountain stage during his reign and always won the Tours through emphatic TTs.

And still I wouldn't really expect to get a Kwaremont feeling from watching it...

The way Big Mig crushed elite climbers on La Plagne ascent was epic. He was so big that those lightweight mountain goats (Pantani included) were almost completely hidden behind his back and still he dropped them all uphill!

 

[Red Rick]

Wtf...

It's true.

Unless you mean to tell me 'better one day racer' doesn't mean 'better one day a year'

 

[Cookster15]

I am too young to have watched it live and have never gotten around to watching videos of those Tours as I've been told how boring they were because he never won a mountain stage during his reign and always won the Tours through emphatic TTs.

And still I wouldn't really expect to get a Kwaremont feeling from watching it...

I wouldn’t say they were boring. That was when I got hooked on the sport. I was actually wishing someone would beat Indurain - like Rominger. But when Indurain was dethroned on the road to Pamplona in 1996 I was quite sad.

 

[Lequack]

Training behind Pog

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNjZf-JirIs

 

[topt]

Roglic has never done well in a long race before? Pretty sure he has. If he targets the ITT, he still has a week to recover.

yeah once and even that was lucky

 

[topt]

Sepp Kuss reading this:

kuss didnt have a higher chance of winning

 

[scribers]

He did. No other opposing team contender could take any of the lead out of Kuss. His teammates had a chance with the ITT and could not either.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Slovenia just need to maintain Pogacar safe and ready to rip the peloton within 50 km to the finish line

 

[Red Rick]

yeah once and even that was lucky

Sprinted for 2nd in Imola, also podium in Lombardia

 

[Rob5091]

Slovenia just need to maintain Pogacar safe and ready to rip the peloton within 50 km to the finish line

So what's the betting before and after 50 km to go?

 

[Peyroteo94]

So what's the betting before and after 50 km to go?

He will drop everyone. Peloton will be reduced to 20 riders and he will kill them all and win with a 48 km solo. This is my prediction

 

[Berniece]

He will drop everyone. Peloton will be reduced to 20 riders

You are overestimating the difficulty of the race and the quality of the Slovenian team to drop all those riders

 

[Rob5091]

You are overestimating the difficulty of the race and the quality of the Slovenian team to drop all those riders

Pogi does not need a team - he'll go a couple of times and then be on his own. Roglic will just be a rolling roadblock together with the other Slovenians.

 

[Berniece]

Pogi does not need a team - he'll go a couple of times and then be on his own. Roglic will just be a rolling roadblock together with the other Slovenians.

Lol, Slovenia not making the race hard 150km out from finish would play in the cards of every other rider. Did you miss how he won LBL or even more recently Montreal?

 

[stekelegel]

Not to hard, remember Van Aert being destroyed by Evenepoel? You don’t want to come into a situation where Hirschi and Evenepoel get an advantage on a flatter part and all teammates have been spent.
get somebody in the early flight or make sure there are no outsidersthere, so you don’t have to work to hard the first 150 km.
Danger might come from inside the team, what does he do when Mohoric, Tratnik or Primoz get into a promising position…

 

[Berniece]

Not to hard, remember Van Aert being destroyed by Evenepoel? You don’t want to come into a situation where Hirschi and Evenepoel get an advantage on a flatter part and all teammates have been spent.
get somebody in the early flight or make sure there are no outsidersthere, so you don’t have to work to hard the first 150 km.
Danger might come from inside the team, what does he do when Mohoric, Tratnik or Primoz get into a promising position…

If they don't make it too hard, like UAE did at LBL then you can expect to finish together with MVDP.

Also besides Roglic no one from Slovenia should come in a promising position because they should work for Pogacar.

 

[Savant12]

Pog will go when he wants to go.....everyone else can try to anticipate but he'll be gone.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If they don't make it too hard, like UAE did at LBL then you can expect to finish together with MVDP.

Also besides Roglic no one from Slovenia should come in a promising position because they should work for Pogacar.

What? MVP can't even compete in Amstel

 

[Peyroteo94]

This is a 273 km race. Pogacar will attack after 5:30 hours on the bike, this WC will be brutal, more than Glasgow

 

[Berniece]

What? MVP can't even compete in Amstel

MVDP weighs much less, check his face, it's like Evenepoel at Dauphine and at TDF difference. He also doesn't have a long peak from WC CX -> Roubaix behind his belt now, he's fresher.

Obviously he won't be able to follow when Pogacar goes, but I don't see Pogacar ride away that easily from everyone and finish solo. So if he's joined by others, and the tempo is gone, MVDP is one of the first ones to come back. He was 3rd at LBL for a reason, and he's in better form and physique now.

The race might have 4500 altitude meters, but the route isn't as difficult as people assume at the moment.

 

[johnymax]

What? MVP can't even compete in Amstel

I might be wrong, but I seem to remember him winning Amstel...

 

[Peyroteo94]

I might be wrong, but I seem to remember him winning Amstel...

I knew someone would give this anwser... I think you get it but it's okay

 

[Froome]

"I can't make any predictions" - Primoz Roglic plays it cool when asked if he'll support Tadej Pogacar in World Championships or go for glory himself

At the 2024 World Championships in Zürich, Slovenia

cyclinguptodate.com

I guess Roglic have another plans. It would be beautiful if Roglic betrays Pogacar.

 

[mariosommelier]

"I can't make any predictions" - Primoz Roglic plays it cool when asked if he'll support Tadej Pogacar in World Championships or go for glory himself

At the 2024 World Championships in Zürich, Slovenia

cyclinguptodate.com

I guess Roglic have another plans. It would be beautiful if Roglic betrays Pogacar.

Just wishful thinking.

Pogacar will not be denied.