Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[topt]

On totally flat courses

even than, just no; pog outsprints him 99% of the time

 

[topt]

I don't think even for a second that WVA can stay with Pog. However, in a very likely scenario where Remco is ahead with Pog he'd have the perfect excuse not to work with the Slovenian making the race much more tactical.

As for the luck I was obviously joking but all the factors that could work in Pog's favour simply fell into place this year. I mean, even Ayuso dropping out of the Tour just made UAE stronger IMO.
Of course you have to grab the chance and he did.

Remco not working ? have we ever seen that

 

[topt]

So do you think he can do whatever he wants in the Worlds?

no but coach will only say yes to what Pog and Rog will discuss alone

 

[mariosommelier]

no but coach will only say yes to what Pog and Rog will discuss alone

So do you think Pog and Rog will have an agreement between them how they will work?

 

[topt]

So do you think Pog and Rog will have an agreement between them how they will work?

for sure

 

[SHAD0W93]

Sprinted for 2nd in Imola, also podium in Lombardia

Lombardia sprint >>>> Worlds sprint

Worlds Roglic was channeling Pog’s 4th in a two man sprint.

 

[Berniece]

believe me Rogla and Pog have much more say in slovenian cycling than national coach

He wasn’t even able to get his girlfriend selected

 

[Oldermanish]

He wasn’t even able to get his girlfriend selected

Yeah, thaaat thing. And Remco one the Olympics RR.
Now; on to the Worlds and maybe the federation will defer to the guys who know how to win it. None of them are coaches.

 

[Peyroteo94]

8 days to the most important race for him. A win means best season ever! Only third rider to win the Triple Crown. Go go Tadej!

 

[Peyroteo94]

So do you think Pog and Rog will have an agreement between them how they will work?

Yes, and I'm almost sure Roglic will not be able to tolerate 274 km. Not this Roglic from 2024

 

[Red Rick]

Lombardia sprint >>>> Worlds sprint

Worlds Roglic was channeling Pog’s 4th in a two man sprint.

I'm mainly talking about being in the 2nd group in the race. i.e. being a factor even if clearly not at the level of Pogacar and Evenepoel.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Happy birthday young man! Enjoy your 26 and don't eat too much, you have a WC to conquer! On the other hand, Lombardia will be a mere formality

 

[Berniece]

8 days to the most important race for him. A win means best season ever! Only third rider to win the Triple Crown. Go go Tadej!

Why would this be the best season ever? The constant need for you guys to search for a reason that he’s close to Merckx is getting silly

 

[Red Rick]

Why would this be the best season ever?

He isn't racing farmers.

But maybe that's just my Pog-hate speaking. Racing farmers would teach him some humility

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why would this be the best season ever? The constant need for you guys to search for a reason that he’s close to Merckx is getting silly

Because it is dude. Maybe it is the other way around and it is you the problem. You can't handle the fact a rider you don't care can surpass you beloved belgian Merckx. And it is even more hurtful to see that Remco can't be anywhere close to the level of Pogacar despite all the hype he had in his youth. Even Merckx said Pogacar is the only one who can come close to him, not Remco. This might be hurtful for a belgian but you have to accept.

 

[Salvarani]

Happy Birthday to the GOAT!!!

 

[Berniece]

Because it is dude. Maybe it is the other way around and it is you the problem. You can't handle the fact a rider you don't care can surpass you beloved belgian Merckx. And it is even more hurtful to see thst Remco can't be anywhere close to the level of Pogacar despite all the hype he had in his youth. Even Merckx said Pogacar is the only one who can come close to him, not Remco. This might be hurtful for a belgian but you have to accept.

Great argument, “because it is” 😂

I never saw Remco as the next Merckx, and I have no problem with Pogacar being better than him. That’s not what being a fan is about. My guy doesn’t have to be the best, that’s not how it works.

But good that you are already saying close to him, you start to see he’s not there at all yet.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Great argument, “because it is” 😂

I never saw Remco as the next Merckx, and I have no problem with Pogacar being better than him. That’s not what being a fan is about. My guy doesn’t have to be the best, that’s not how it works.

But good that you are already saying close to him, you start to see he’s not there at all yet.

He isn't close to Merckx when we talk about palmares. I always said this, so I don't get your argument.
Dude, for me it is. I just analyze all seasons of Merckx and this one from Pogacar can beat them. It is my opinion, you are free to disagree but you can't say it is silly and pathetic to think this season (with a WC) is nowhere close to surpass Merckx's best season.

 

[Berniece]

He isn't close to Merckx when we talk about palmares. I always said this, so I don't get your argument.
Dude, for me it is. I just analyze all seasons of Merckx and this one from Pogacar can beat them. It is my opinion, you are free to disagree but you can't say it is silly and pathetic to think this season (with a WC) is nowhere close to surpass Merckx's best season.

Oh it’s a feeling thing, not based on actual facts. Then fine, if you feel this is the best season ever, then you can feel that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Oh it’s a feeling thing, not based on actual facts. Then fine, if you feel this is the best season ever, then you can feel that.

Of course it is not fact but it is also not a fact this season isn't better than Merckx's best season. It is also your opinion/feeling. But what I can't accept is you saying it is silly to think the opposite of you and specially saying only Pogacar fans think that way because it is not true at all. Redrick doesn't like Pogacar and he thinks the same.

 

[Berniece]

Of course it is not fact but it is also not a fact this season isn't better than Merckx's best season. It is also your opinion/feeling. But what I can't accept is you saying it is silly to think the opposite of you and specially saying only Pogacar fans think that way because it is not true at all. Redrick doesn't like Pogacar and he thinks the same.

No, mine is based on facts. You can check any ranking that attributes points to places and positions. Merckx currently has 7 seasons better than Pogacar’s 2024

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, mine is based on facts. You can check any ranking that attributes points to places and positions. Merckx currently has 7 seasons better than Pogacar’s 2024

No one cares about minor wins. It is all about GT's, monuments and WC. A lot of rankings put Roglic as a better rider than Froome and Contador, we all know this is not true.

 

[Berniece]

No one cares about minor wins. It is all about GT's, monuments and WC. A lot of rankings put Roglic as a better rider than Froome and Contador, we all know this is not true.

Sure, no one cares about those things as long as it fits their narrative

 

[Peyroteo94]

Sure, no one cares about those things as long as it fits their narrative

Do you count 2nd in Lombardia, 2nd in Paris Roubaix? I don't but these results give a lot of points. I will not continue this conversation, it's pointless.
I will just add one thing, a rider able to be 2nd in all GT's, all monuments, strade/FW/Amstel/etc, would have the best season ever based on your argument.
Cheers!

 

[Berniece]

Do you count 2nd in Lombardia, 2nd in Paris Roubaix? I don't but these results give a lot of points. I will not continue this conversation, it's pointless.
I will just add one thing, a rider able to be 2nd in all GT's, all monuments, strade/FW/Amstel/etc, would have the best season ever based on your argument.
Cheers!

What is etc? Every other race in the world?