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Its ironic how people consider merckx a goat and armstrong a froud when both actually got caught doping multiple times in their career with only the later getting the stick for his behavior to cover up his sh**😖 If it wasn't for his bad attitudes towards some riders we would've still considered him the greatest GT rider with 7 consecutive tdf wins🤭. Even if i'm a die hard pogi fan i wouldn't even mention his name amongst the best if he got caught doping 3 times as merckx was.
Pogacar succeeded in some races because other riders chose not to take him on directly. Not all events but the Giro was a sad promenade behind him. The Tour was a closer reality for about 2 weeks and then everyone settled into their petty fights for the lower placings. So, yes; if they do that in 2025 the results could be the same.
To be fair, though, 'doping before 1989' =/= 'doping after 1989'.
Wait... what?
There should be a limit up to where Pogacar and Vingegaard (and Evenepoel for that matter) improve. I find it hard to believe that Pogacar can improve any further (without visiting different part of the forum) and Vingegaard being 28 should be close to his limit as well.
There are always outliers. Nobody knows when Pogacar will reach his physiological peak.
Jonas isn't "fine" until he proves his form. It's also Visma's problem if he can't.
They are all improving year after year. If they don't improve, they will have worse results and performances. What Vingo, and specially Remco have to do is improving significantly more than Pogacar.
I think, Pogacar wants to improve in those races. This year he won everything what he should except maybe WC. Strade, LBL, Giro, Catalunya and Montreal who was actually there to challenge him? Lombardia, Emilia where Remco and Roglic looked already tired after everything what happened this season and Tour where everybody came after big crashes except Pogi. He looked really disapointed after Quebec and MSR and he said it too. WC is other story and that is also why he looked so happy after finish line. Flanders 2023 and WC 2024 are also only races where i have see him being crazy happy and totally on the limit.
I agree with the general point. As for MSR, I think the only thing he needs is a team that works perferctly. Good for Pog that jokers like Ulissi and Hirschi are gone. They can now mount a fully committed big-boy train on the climbs. McNulty, Bjerg, Del Torro, Wellens, and Narvaez together with Novak and Politt should do the job. Narvaez is a fantastic signing in this regard.
I agree. Also, MVDP may not target MSR in the coming years. He seem to be more of a wildcard in his preparation for each season with CX. RVV and P-R seem to be way more important peaks for him.
Right, but had they taken him on they would have blown up. He that flies to close to the sun gets incinerated.
WCRR was a great example of dithering and excuses. Several American riders killed themselves to be in the mix and Ben O'Conner surprised all of us. Are those guys better than MvP, Remco, Wout....?
Better to give it a shot than accept staying in the field for top 20 in my book. But I raced like an amateur against pros so no dignity was lost when it came to nothing. It also gave me some breathrough results which the current state of the peloton desperately needs to counter Pogacar.
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