That certainly shows the cycling world is enraptured by what they are seeing and it is not just fan hyperbole
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That certainly shows the cycling world is enraptured by what they are seeing and it is not just fan hyperbole
So MSR, Dauphiné and Vuelta will be in his racing programView: https://x.com/eurosport/status/1857045820253630898?t=HNo-2y4sSUtJDXddSVg19w&s=19
Cant wait for a cipressa master class🤩
No we cant conclude on that. He knows he can win dauphine & vuelta on one leg even in his 30's he is particularly talking about sanremo where he will be in the shape of his life. The key person in that race is jasper philipsen, he is the one who decides the races outcome. When pog attacks on cipressa only mvdp can follow and he will probably be on his limit & if jasper is in the race he will not work with pog but if he isnt he has to work on the valley & pog drops him easy on poggioSo MSR, Dauphiné and Vuelta will be in his racing program
Where did you see this? San Vito?
The "key person" is MVDP.No we cant conclude on that. He knows he can win dauphine & vuelta on one leg even in his 30's he is particularly talking about sanremo where he will be in the shape of his life. The key person in that race is jasper philipsen, he is the one who decides the races outcome. When pog attacks on cipressa only mvdp can follow and he will probably be on his limit & if jasper is in the race he will not work with pog but if he isnt he has to work on the valley & pog drops him easy on poggio
Not really, for 2024 pog there is no direct rival & on flanders we will see clear & laugh on the best classics riders in mvdp,wva& pederson when he sweeps them away by 3 minutes. His biggest & only rival(indirect) for 2025 season is philipsen b/c he would be the only one who could snatch a win from pog or make other riders win by making sanremo a tactical race. I will be incredibly surprised If mvdp takes the gamble of working with pog in the valley down cipressa with poggio ahead.The "key person" is MVDP.
So it is a feeling. I think he didn't get worse. There were plenty of races where he completely shattered the race with his acceleration.TBH I'm not sure about this. I just think I saw more powerful accelerations by him in the previous years. I'm not talking about 3-5 minutes efforts, more about a few dozens of seconds efforts (Z6). His aerobic engine has been so superior this year and it seems logical that his anaerobic power/capacity should be reduced a bit.
MVDP is the key person, since he can impact the race. Either by attacking like he won the race in 2023 or sacrificing himself to chase like he did in 2024, for his teammate.Not really, for 2024 pog there is no direct rival & on flanders we will see clear & laugh on the best classics riders in mvdp,wva& pederson when he sweeps them away by 3 minutes. His biggest & only rival(indirect) for 2025 season is philipsen b/c he would be the only one who could snatch a win from pog or make other riders win by making sanremo a tactical race. I will be incredibly surprised If mvdp takes the gamble of working with pog in the valley down cipressa with poggio ahead.
You are talking about MVP but Pogi can't drop WVA tooMVDP is the key person, since he can impact the race. Either by attacking like he won the race in 2023 or sacrificing himself to chase like he did in 2024, for his teammate.
MVDP is the key person. Not Philipsen.
Philipsen is not the one that can impact the race by himself, but he can definitely win it if the right scenario plays out for him. The attackers are brought back and he is in the group for a sprint.
And I definitely believe MVDP would like the odds in 1 vs 1 in a sprint against Pog, at last a great chance to win, if either cant go solo from each other but everyone else is left behind. It would be a great fight nonetheless.
If MVDP is able to stay with Pog and it is just the two of them in the valley... I would be surprised if MVDP just sits on. Then he is not interested in winning, which I would be surprised with, if such a scenario plays out. Then he would just be marking Pog.
I can only see MVDP chase if the scenario is like last year. Philipsen shortly behind in a small first group, where he is the best sprinter. Then MVDP likely sacrifces himself. Not if him and Pog are solo.
?You are talking about MVP but Pogi can't drop WVA too
Ah ok, then I agree with you.?
I was tryna say that MVDP is the key person for Pog and not Philipsen, out of the two.
So it is a feeling. I think he didn't get worse. There were plenty of races where he completely shattered the race with his acceleration.
Cycling is an endurance sport, even sprinters are not "pure sprinters". They still need to endure 180 km before sprinting. Pure sprinters are on track.Because others were dead by then while his superior engine enabled him to demolish the competition in the finale. Then again, I'm not comparing his explosivity with other GC guys (he's much better OFC) but the problem could be a guy like MVP in a race with little climbing.
Our definitions of "a key person" is totally different. I see a person as key when he has a better chance to win the race or has the lion share of deciding the outcome.MVDP is the key person, since he can impact the race. Either by attacking like he won the race in 2023 or sacrificing himself to chase like he did in 2024, for his teammate.
MVDP is the key person. Not Philipsen.
Philipsen is not the one that can impact the race by himself, but he can definitely win it if the right scenario plays out for him. The attackers are brought back and he is in the group for a sprint.
And I definitely believe MVDP would like the odds in 1 vs 1 in a sprint against Pog, at last a great chance to win, if either cant go solo from each other but everyone else is left behind. It would be a great fight nonetheless.
If MVDP is able to stay with Pog and it is just the two of them in the valley... I would be surprised if MVDP just sits on. Then he is not interested in winning, which I would be surprised with, if such a scenario plays out. Then he would just be marking Pog.
I can only see MVDP chase if the scenario is like last year. Philipsen shortly behind in a small first group, where he is the best sprinter. Then MVDP likely sacrifces himself. Not if him and Pog are solo.
I bet my house MVP would be happy in working with Pogacar. He beats Pogi 9/10 in a sprint.Our definitions of "a key person" is totally different. I see a person as key when he has a better chance to win the race or has the lion share of deciding the outcome.
In our case of msr no matter how strong mvdp is if we get pogacar on 2024 world championships form then mvdp has no chance if the race opens on cipressa b/c the pog i saw in WC his power didn't drop throughout his 100km solo raid which mvdp also said he has never seen such a performance & also said pogs era has only started
My conclusion is mvdp will not gamble on working with pog in the valley of cipressa with philipsen being his card. But if as you say mvdp works with pog down in the valley of cipressa with poggio waiting ahead it would be suicide for him.
Or gets dropped before the sprint.I bet my house MVP would be happy in working with Pogacar. He beats Pogi 9/10 in a sprint.
In San Remo I don't believe. It's too easyOr gets dropped before the sprint.
Ok, fair enough. We can agree to disagree.Our definitions of "a key person" is totally different. I see a person as key when he has a better chance to win the race or has the lion share of deciding the outcome.
In our case of msr no matter how strong mvdp is if we get pogacar on 2024 world championships form then mvdp has no chance if the race opens on cipressa b/c the pog i saw in WC his power didn't drop throughout his 100km solo raid which mvdp also said he has never seen such a performance & also said pogs era has only started
My conclusion is mvdp will not gamble on working with pog in the valley of cipressa with philipsen being his card. But if as you say mvdp works with pog down in the valley of cipressa with poggio waiting ahead it would be suicide for him.
Plausible, but if Pog attacks and MVDP can respond... even as early as Cipressa and they get a gap to a peloton that has exploded... I think MVDPs best chance to win the race is working with Pog and try to hold on in Poggio. He knows it or he is just not riding to win for himself. Unless it is on Poggio and Philipsen is 5 seconds behind going into the descent. Just like last year.Or gets dropped before the sprint.
Our definitions of "a key person" is totally different. I see a person as key when he has a better chance to win the race or has the lion share of deciding the outcome.
I wouldn't put Vuelta as a sure thing even he announces that he is 100% there.RAI says Pogacar will race Tour-Vuelta next year. Just put Angliru there to see my boy smash Heras's climbing record
Vingegaard almost won the Vuelta after being at home with his familly in 2023. And that Tour wasn't a walk in the park. Pogacar will race the Vuelta, this new coach knows what he is doing (not saying San Millan was a bad coach. I'm not an expert to assess that).I wouldn't put Vuelta as a sure thing even he announces that he is 100% there.
A lot will depend on how he comes out of the Tour. If it's a very hard battle (say like 2022), I can see him skipping the Vuelta to prepare for the Worlds
Vingegaard almost won the Vuelta after being at home with his familly in 2023. And that Tour wasn't a walk in the park. Pogacar will race the Vuelta, this new coach knows what he is doing (not saying San Millan was a bad coach. I'm not an expert to assess that).