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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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Ok pog is unknown for you in 2023🤣 when he became the 1st rider in this century to win the tour of flanders as a tour de france winner☹️Everyone knows he was the best rider in 2023 with the exceptions of his vulnerabilities in the tours heat. If it was carbon monoxide visma also admitted that they used it. Bardet was just talking about 2nd tier riders who he used to beat now they are way ahead of him
 

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It has not so much to do with the current UAE - UCI relationship
What relationship? Is that UAE-owned cycling app sponsoring the so-called indoor world championships? The desperation level is getting very pathetic here.

Ok pog is unknown for you in 2023🤣 when he became the 1st rider in this century to win the tour of flanders as a tour de france winner☹️Everyone knows he was the best rider in 2023 with the exceptions of his vulnerabilities in the tours heat. If it was carbon monoxide visma also admitted that they used it. Bardet was just talking about 2nd tier riders who he used to beat now they are way ahead of him
My guess is that he was talking about Derek Gee.
 
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Much less scary than when the corrupt british government bribed the UCI presidency by buying votes and putting a british president in charge of both the UCI and WADA.

and this british dude began his journey to become a Grand Tour GOAT.
remember when Lappartient was elected after Cookson at the end on 2017 and he came to end the Sky domination? Sky-Ineos, under a French UCI president won: 2 TDF, 3 Giro, Roubaix, Suisse, Dauphiné, Romandie, Amstel, etc
2024 is the 14th year in-a-row SkIneos puts at least 1 rider on a GT podium
 
This kind of power makes no sense if Remco was generating similar. Teddy was doing easily over 400 watts to demolish his rivals like that. I don't believe this kind of "source" at all but his outrageous Lombardy performance was worrying (regarding possible motor usage). I'm really hoping this is not the case.
Yeah, it's not correct that number. 340 W is Pog's Zone 2 ceiling. Can't believe that he put 3 minutes into Remco riding in Zone 2.
 

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remember when Lappartient was elected after Cookson at the end on 2017 and he came to end the Sky domination? Sky-Ineos, under a French UCI president won: 2 TDF, 3 Giro, Roubaix, Suisse, Dauphiné, Romandie, Amstel, etc
2024 is the 14th year in-a-row SkIneos puts at least 1 rider on a GT podium
Lappartient's first move was to announce that Froome had failed a doping test. He wanted to ban Froome, but could not because the WADA president was still british. I'm sure Froome's doping case would never have come to light if Cookson had stayed on as UCI president. Who knows how much bad stuff this corrupt clown has been sweeping under the carpet over the years...

When the british also lost the WADA presidency in 2020, the Skyineos' performances became much less impressive. Now you no longer see random british nobody winning Grand Tour races in a row like Froome did. The good results that INEOS achieved were mainly due to the talented foreigners like Bernal, Kwiatkowski, van Baarle..
 
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Lappartient's first move was to announce that Froome had failed a doping test. He wanted to ban Froome, but could not because the WADA president was still british. I'm sure Froome's doping case would never have come to light if Cookson had stayed on as UCI president. Who knows how much bad stuff this corrupt clown has been sweeping under the carpet over the years...

When the british also lost the WADA presidency in 2020, the Skyineos' performances became much less impressive. Now you no longer see random british nobody winning Grand Tour races in a row like Froome did. The good results that INEOS achieved were mainly due to the talented foreigners like Bernal, Kwiatkowski, van Baarle..

fine, you too much anti-Brit for me (I'm Italian). nice to talk. ciao
 
You certainly know "coming up with something concrete" is not his job. A lot of people are paid for this. But I think, as cycling fans, our job is to make noise when things are going too far.

Regarding the doping motor" nonsense", I'll tell you where I see nonsense. When he became UCI president, David Lappartient said his main goal was fighting mechanical doping. They put a lot of money on it. Useless tablets, Xray machines (540 000 $, then smaller ones, 50 000 $ each), then hiring a guy who formerly worked for the CIA (probably 10X my salary), then suddenly anouncing they would offer financial rewards for motor doping whistleblowers. Millions of dollars to find... nothing. Here is your NONSENSE. And why don't they dismantle bikes ? We're not talking about nuclear submarines, we're talking about bikes. B.I.K.E.S.

As far as I am concerned, I am on the edge. I sometimes feel it would explain a lot of things, I sometimes feel it is a crazy idea. But I know for sure something is happening.

I had to talk to my elder brother (he is the real cycling fan of the family, he fell for it from a very young age, I was just the little girl forced to watch Bernard Hinault win lots of Tours de France - you know there was only one screen in houses by this time). He is not into social media, not into forums, not into watts. But he has a knowledge, built on experience. We weren't born yesterday. We don't believe Hinault was clean. And we've seen a lot from there.

First glass of wine, we burst out laughing recalling some of Pogacar's 2024 moves - he really likes Pogacar but he isn't naive, and he's starting to get bored. Second glass, he laughed at me when I said Remco was my landmark with doping question, but the third glass brought us to an agreement: Lefevere = classic doping = still 3 minutes gap in Lombardia.

We both know something is happening. For decades, cycling has followed a "normal doping"/too far mouvement. Whether it is technological or biological doping, we've reached this too far point. You just have to open your eyes.

BTW, it was very rude to spot a spelling mistake. A lot of people on this forum don't have English as their mother tongue, which I think is an asset, and pointing out their mistakes is of no interest. At least they make the effort to speak a foreign language. I'd love to hear you pronounce La Planche des belles filles, L'Alpe d'Huez or le col du Galibier.
I think your vestment in moto doping explanations is mostly fantasy. I see the UCI's investment in it as much misdirection rather than interdiction. It politically takes the heat off of serious doping testing at the times that mean something: random whereabouts in far flung camps. If there is doping mischief these days it is more likely before an event than during.
 
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Because there is absolutely no difference between an individual "donating" money and a relatively young company taking over the sponsorship of an event from a better known rival to gain more market share and visibility.
 
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Floyd, and some likely caving by Chris Carmichael and others who no longer suckled at the teat of Armstrong. A few friends that did stints coaching in Carmichael's system and didn't race in Armstrong's early days wondered how Chris could claim such credentials. The secret was in the secrets....he knew Lance when he was a Junior under USAC. Other riders who toiled in that system suggested Carmichael was an empty coaching source.

Pogacar has been out in the open so he survives well, as do most of the other major riders because Dave/Mr. UCI has no upside to trashing his sport while courting the IOC presidency. Let that happen after he gets the lifetime, unaccountable job.
 
Floyd, and some likely caving by Chris Carmichael and others who no longer suckled at the teat of Armstrong. A few friends that did stints coaching in Carmichael's system and didn't race in Armstrong's early days wondered how Chris could claim such credentials. The secret was in the secrets....he knew Lance when he was a Junior under USAC. Other riders who toiled in that system suggested Carmichael was an empty coaching source.

Pogacar has been out in the open so he survives well, as do most of the other major riders because Dave/Mr. UCI has no upside to trashing his sport while courting the IOC presidency. Let that happen after he gets the lifetime, unaccountable job.
I'm reading Tyler Hamilton's book and Lance himself called the UCI on Tyler when TH dropped him on Mont Ventoux. TH writes that the UCI likes to protect its own, especially young superstars. I think eventually someone gets jealous or angry enough that they whistleblow--they can't stand the abuse of power, they're tired of getting popped and living in fear all the time, etc. Any bets on who will crack or get popped first?
 
I'm reading Tyler Hamilton's book and Lance himself called the UCI on Tyler when TH dropped him on Mont Ventoux. TH writes that the UCI likes to protect its own, especially young superstars. I think eventually someone gets jealous or angry enough that they whistleblow--they can't stand the abuse of power, they're tired of getting popped and living in fear all the time, etc. Any bets on who will crack or get popped first?
As I noted above the top guys are very visable and adored by their countrymen and most other riders respect them. Lance was clearly another type of businessman and sought out the same sort of guys to cover for him.

Hard to say but history usually provides us with a candidate from a second tier racer/team that suddenly has results that aren't explainable. It helps if their own federation isn't in bed with them or the UCI has an axe to grind. The top guys now are independent and would work in a small circle. Visma has moved on from riders, trainers and administrators lately; there could be some disgruntled retirees from that pool but it's a guess.
 
As I noted above the top guys are very visable and adored by their countrymen and most other riders respect them. Lance was clearly another type of businessman and sought out the same sort of guys to cover for him.

Hard to say but history usually provides us with a candidate from a second tier racer/team that suddenly has results that aren't explainable. It helps if their own federation isn't in bed with them or the UCI has an axe to grind. The top guys now are independent and would work in a small circle. Visma has moved on from riders, trainers and administrators lately; there could be some disgruntled retirees from that pool but it's a guess.
Will Tadej's gregarios get tired of him pushing furious paces, making them work hard when they're already ahead? Will his success go to his head and make him arrogant and difficult?