Question Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[GuntherL]

It's about time we address Pogacars remarkable rise since he joined UAE in 2019.

His first season as a junior wasn't anything special, but we have to remember that he was born later in year (September) which is a disadvantage at that age.
In his second season he definitely proved his talent by winning the Giro della Lunigiana.
However, in the entire season he only won two stages and never put any distance on his competitors.
His time trial abilities were less impressive. A 25th and 68th spot.

His first season as a U23 rider wasn't too great either.
He won a few youth jerseys, but didn't record a single stage win.

His second season was definitely better, but still hit and miss.
He won the Tour de l'Avenir, but didn't record a stage win.
He also finished 7th at the WC road race.
Promising, but not exceptional.

Then he moved to UAE. Its CEO is Mauro Gianetti, possibly the dirtiest rider and sports director in history.
Suddenly he started to win stage races (Algarve, California, and individual mountain stages in the Vuelta against the likes of Valverde and Roglic.
He also became a much better time trialist beating Mohoric and Tratnik in the Slovenian championship.

Give me a break.

 

[Mayomaniac]

We are back home boys

So he was just sandbagging at the NC ITT.

 

[ontheroad]

He's in a race all of his own, on a completely different plane than everyone else in all disciplines. What makes it so abnormal and what is easy to forget is the fact that he is so young. What will he be like when he reaches physical peak in a few years, he could dominate cycling for the next decade.

 

[Red Rick]

He doesn't even look happy

 

[Luthor]

yeah.. nothing to see here...

Probably because of lack of form for everyone else. (due to crashes and just...). Ganna will feel lucky he hasn't started here... because
I doubt Ganna would have been faster here.

Did Slovenia announced their ITT guy? It's a no brainer now.

 

[OldCranky]

Did Slovenia announced their ITT guy? It's a no brainer now.

I'm also looking forward to seeing him in the shot put, weightlifting and 10,000m.

 

[Pinot's goat]

I am not surprised by a top 5 but certainly not expecting a comfortable win.

 

[Eeslliw]

Did Slovenia announced their ITT guy? It's a no brainer now.

Is it possible he wouldn't get gear for OI? Too much on stake? Why risk it for his national team, looking from UAE perspective. I think he won't be even top 5 at OI TT. Excuse, tired from TDF.

 

[Ripper]

I just started laughing when I saw the results.

 

[markene2]

Hahahahaha this is great, uae and maxtin does not give a ***, seems like the uci have let things be more free for all instead of one superior team while other teams got warnings (postal, sky)

No way he gets busted ever unless something leaks to the media, im sure he tests positive a few times a year, to much bad press if he did get caught.

 

[Shakes]

Can we fire commentators ? They keep encouraging these acts with their statements and if someone gets caught bring them down. Despicable bunch that only hurts cycling. Now they are saying how amazing it is, not even a sweat, phenomenal, blabla

Van de Poel is also bizarre but at least you can see him die on the bike. Pogacar is even more absurd and I am afraid this just leads everyone to jump on the same train. Fuelled by being talked down now by all media. Just like at end of 90s and beginning 2000s. We will see crazy stuff based on what happened last year with a new person for which superhuman is supposedly normal. Despite everything we know.

Ignorance is a bliss. Let's keep repeating and slowly ensuring no sponsors will touch the sport. More nexthash, Bahrain and UaE sponsorship. Yay....

 

[Vroome.exe]

Chernobyl disaster is nothing when compared to the radiation levels of this.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Hahahahaha this is great, uae and maxtin does not give a ***, seems like the uci have let things be more free for all instead of one superior team while other teams got warnings (postal, sky)

No way he gets busted ever unless something leaks to the media, im sure he tests positive a few times a year, to much bad press if he did get caught.

This time GIanetti and Matxin have tons of Oil money to back them...
This was a 2013 Froome/2009 Contador levels TT.

 

[danielovichdk2]

Can someone pull his past ITT records from PCs, so we can start to disect this with at least a bit of proof. Before people go insane.

 

[markene2]

This time GIanetti and Matxin have tons of Oil money to back them...
This was a 2013 Froome/2009 Contador levels TT.

Yeah it was absurd, first thoughts was froome beating Tony, i dont really care one way or another, its really ballsy from the team and he looks good on the Bike, thats all that matters to me.

 

[Climbing]

Better pull 90's 20's ITT times, if you really wanna compare with something

 

[Vroome.exe]

Can someone pull his past ITT records from PCs, so we can start to disect this with at least a bit of proof. Before people go insane.

His only two TT wins both come in TdF.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

too much money in the team for anyone to do anything about his.


the guy barely looks excited when he wins.

he can outsprint alaphilippe, he can out ITT kung and WVA, he can climb faster than froom and vino.

farce. everyone watching knows what happends. so much innuendo from commentators.

 

[markene2]

What i would love is for a spectator to set up a IR camera 3-4k from a mountain top finish, then we would see all the bikes glow, these new times are a combination of new pharma and engines.

 

[burning]

Yeah it was absurd, first thoughts was froome beating Tony, i dont really care one way or another, its really ballsy from the team and he looks good on the Bike, thats all that matters to me.

Agreed, at least Pogacar is not a donkey on a bike that got supercharged due to full-throttle doping. He's a super talented guy that is going absolutely nuclear.

 

[Mayomaniac]

His only two TT wins both come in TdF.

Yeah, but since turining pro he has only finished outside the top 5 twice in ITTs, in the 2019 Vuelta where he finished 11th and in PV in 2019 (18th).

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I just feel bad for everyone who isn't one of the happy few (read: Pogacar, VDP, Van Aert and maybe Roglic and Alaphilippe) right now. There's just no way to compete in any discipline at all right now, it's like the highlights of decades of EPO mashed together in a single generation.

 

[ice&fire]

He doesn't even look happy

He was asked to slow down so MVDP keeps the yellow jersey.

#FreePogacar

 

[Ripper]

So dude handily beats fairly fresh time trial specialist who is it working towards Olympic gold! Priceless!

 

[Bronstein]

Good post.

Good post, hog.

 

[limak_]

He was asked to slow down so MVDP keeps the yellow jersey.

#FreePogacar

By doing so, he even managed to hit some nice equal numbers with his avg speed and time. That can't be a coincidence.