Question Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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It's about time we address Pogacars remarkable rise since he joined UAE in 2019.

His first season as a junior wasn't anything special, but we have to remember that he was born later in year (September) which is a disadvantage at that age.
In his second season he definitely proved his talent by winning the Giro della Lunigiana.
However, in the entire season he only won two stages and never put any distance on his competitors.
His time trial abilities were less impressive. A 25th and 68th spot.

His first season as a U23 rider wasn't too great either.
He won a few youth jerseys, but didn't record a single stage win.

His second season was definitely better, but still hit and miss.
He won the Tour de l'Avenir, but didn't record a stage win.
He also finished 7th at the WC road race.
Promising, but not exceptional.

Then he moved to UAE. Its CEO is Mauro Gianetti, possibly the dirtiest rider and sports director in history.
Suddenly he started to win stage races (Algarve, California, and individual mountain stages in the Vuelta against the likes of Valverde and Roglic.
He also became a much better time trialist beating Mohoric and Tratnik in the Slovenian championship.

Give me a break.
 
Reactions: vanderbob
Is it possible he wouldn't get gear for OI? Too much on stake? Why risk it for his national team, looking from UAE perspective. I think he won't be even top 5 at OI TT. Excuse, tired from TDF.
I agree, they're gonna do the same excuse as last years WC. Apparently he was so tired that he worked for Roglic but at the same time he should possess incredible recovery and Roglic was clearly more tired after TDF. Obviously UAE is not giving him the juice for the national competitions and Olympics might actually have some decent doping controls. He should be the favorite for the Olympics RR but I think we're gonna see a surprise there too.
 
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In terms of absolute peak performance, I am curious how does he compare to the past performances.

Some examples that all of us know include:

Indurain 95
Riis 96
Ullrich 97
Pantani 98
Lance 2004-2005
Contador 2009
Froome 2013

I think I will slot Pogacar below Indurain and Lance, but ahead of everyone else.
 
Reactions: Amazinmets87
oh yes, the clean red VDP, first time on TT bike probably this year and less than 30sec down on the doper
As if the "miner worker" Pog has some good TT position /s Your post is whataboutism at its finest. If someone does an incredible performance, then everyone expects him to go ham and be extremely tired after an incredible effort. Basically what VDP did at Tirreno.
 
Reactions: Fantastico
If he's smart he's gonna control things like Indurain. No need to pull a Froome to show everyone how superior you are.
Froome learned to dial it down after his first two tour wins. It took the heat off him a little. After the first 2 wins it was a case of blow them all away in the first two weeks when the race is still on and then lose a little bit of time in week 3 and put it down to tiredness. Makes him look human. Pogacar can win this Tour whatever way he chooses.
 
Reactions: Eeslliw
I'm pretty sure nobody insists that VDP is clean. But imagine, if even all the other dopers look totally exhausted at the finish, but Pogacar looks like he did a relaxed Sunday ride, what does that tell us about his performance...
Pogacar did look tired after the fact. He was probably told to slow it down in the final km, though, as MVDP was on course to lose the yellow jersey by a few seconds. The other riders went flat-out until the finish line.
 
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