Question Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Red Rick]

Can he keep this up for a few seasons? At some point it should be too much for his body and the wheels should fall off the wagon.

He doesn't overrace that much really.

If there's one thing that riders seem to go away from it's riding all of PN/Tirreno, then Catalunya, and then Pais Vasco.

 

[noob]

Pog losing his temper was something new to watch.

 

[Ripper]

Pog losing his temper was something new to watch.

Indeed, although it was not very surprising

 

[Ripper]

While I have found van der Poel to be quite suspect in previous races, I don't think he comes close to Pog.

 

[acm]

Pog losing his temper was something new to watch.

Not really. LBL 2020, Itzulia 2021, nationals last year...

 

[Tim Cahill]

"Slovenian explains finish line gestures and reveals he ripped up the Ronde on feel after losing power data"

Could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before

 

[masking_agent]

Is Pogacar making a mockery of the sport to a certain extent ? He's animating all the big single day races ? Taking away from the "rouleurs" or the "hard men of the sport" who specialize in the one day classics ?

How can one body sustain this ? Obviously we know he's on something that only a few are on , and we have no David Walsh -like reporter to pursue him, so he just will continue to dominate the headlines.

Then we have past tour winners who are putting in 7 hours a day in Canary Islands complaining about disc brakes, but cannot even come close to Tadej's form ? C'mon ?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Is Pogacar making a mockery of the sport to a certain extent ? He's animating all the big single day races ? Taking away from the "rouleurs" or the "hard men of the sport" who specialize in the one day classics ?

How can one body sustain this ? Obviously we know he's on something that only a few are on , and we have no David Walsh -like reporter to pursue him, so he just will continue to dominate the headlines.

Then we have past tour winners who are putting in 7 hours a day in Canary Islands complaining about disc brakes, but cannot even come close to Tadej's form ? C'mon ?

If Geraint Thomas can become a GC climber, it isn't intrinsically more preposterous for somebody like Pogačar to become a Northern Classics man. In fact it's probably less, because Pogačar is doing this before the age of 30.

 

[gillan1969]

Is Pogacar making a mockery of the sport to a certain extent ? He's animating all the big single day races ? Taking away from the "rouleurs" or the "hard men of the sport" who specialize in the one day classics ?

How can one body sustain this ? Obviously we know he's on something that only a few are on , and we have no David Walsh -like reporter to pursue him, so he just will continue to dominate the headlines.

Then we have past tour winners who are putting in 7 hours a day in Canary Islands complaining about disc brakes, but cannot even come close to Tadej's form ? C'mon ?

David 'nutella' Walsh?

 

[Extinction]

Is Pogacar making a mockery of the sport to a certain extent ? He's animating all the big single day races ? Taking away from the "rouleurs" or the "hard men of the sport" who specialize in the one day classics ?

How can one body sustain this ? Obviously we know he's on something that only a few are on , and we have no David Walsh -like reporter to pursue him, so he just will continue to dominate the headlines.

Then we have past tour winners who are putting in 7 hours a day in Canary Islands complaining about disc brakes, but cannot even come close to Tadej's form ? C'mon ?

Apart from the doping speculations, he actually is a "hard man of the sport," a killer.
Don't let his calm, boyish demeanour fool you. He is a ruthless assassin.

 

[Ripper]

If Geraint Thomas can become a GC climber, it isn't intrinsically more preposterous for somebody like Pogačar to become a Northern Classics man. In fact it's probably less, because Pogačar is doing this before the age of 30.

They are both pretty ridiculous. But pog is more ridiculous everywhere and all the time.

 

[MartinGT]

"Slovenian explains finish line gestures and reveals he ripped up the Ronde on feel after losing power data"

Could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before

He did actually lose his PM. I saw a photographer post it on Insta, he had his SRM head unit.

However, this dude is just laughing in our faces

 

[nayr497]

Just watched the race highlights. Definitely laughing in our faces. Mtn goat climber who now has as much power on cobbles as a horse-man with a CX and MTB skillset? C'mon now. It just isn't believable.

And, every time I'm reminded Thomas won the TdF I'm in awe. It seems like it didn't really happen, too crazy that a big, heavy former trackie did that. Good lord.

 

[danielovichdk2]

Love the guy. A true warrior. Wants to race, and wants to win what he races. Not your normal GT rider. He has so much power and I hope he sweeps the table clear the coming years.

And I don't think he is doping. He is perhaps eating more bio vegetables and drinks a special coffee blend.

Go Pog!

 

[Nick2413]

Love the guy. A true warrior. Wants to race, and wants to win what he races. Not your normal GT rider. He has so much power and I hope he sweeps the table clear the coming years.

And I don't think he is doping. He is perhaps eating more bio vegetables and drinks a special coffee blend.

Go Pog!

Whatever is in that orange soda can he’s always drinking must be the real secret. I even saw him crack one open halfway through Flanders.

 

[Ripper]

Not ... normal

Go Pog!

Lolz

 

[Extinction]

As with many here, I have been following cycling for too long to be led into self-deception. I'd just like to imagine that whatever he is on does not give him an untoward advantage with respect to what his competition takes.

 

[MartinGT]

Just watched the race highlights. Definitely laughing in our faces. Mtn goat climber who now has as much power on cobbles as a horse-man with a CX and MTB skillset? C'mon now. It just isn't believable.

And, every time I'm reminded Thomas won the TdF I'm in awe. It seems like it didn't really happen, too crazy that a big, heavy former trackie did that. Good lord.

Wait until 'G' is back and winning PR

 

[Thammuz]

I think we have a case of mechanical doping here. That what it looks like anyway.
But we now also have (IMO strong) visual evidence from the Tour of Flanders, when Pogacar crashes early in the race. Check this out, from 11min 43, for 20 seconds. Watch the crazy, unnatural spin on the rear wheel. My bike certainly doesnt that!! Now this is my opinion of course. ..I'm just throwing it out here. But I also think we must be super critical concerning this guy.
so here we go:

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Met live beelden en/of samenvattingen van de belangrijkste sportwedstrijden en -evenementen van de dag. Ook met interviews en reportages.

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[Krzysztof_O]

I think we have a case of mechanical doping here. That what it looks like anyway.
But we now also have (IMO strong) visual evidence from the Tour of Flanders, when Pogacar crashes early in the race. Check this out, from 11min 43, for 20 seconds. Watch the crazy, unnatural spin on the rear wheel. My bike certainly doesnt that!! Now this is my opinion of course. ..I'm just throwing it out here. But I also think we must be super critical concerning this guy.
so here we go:

NOS Studio Sport gemist? Start met kijken op NPO Start

Met live beelden en/of samenvattingen van de belangrijkste sportwedstrijden en -evenementen van de dag. Ook met interviews en reportages.

www.npostart.nl

Didn't that guy just spin pedals to put the chain onto a sprocket?
If Pogi had lost despite a motor then he's slower than my grandma.

 

[fmk_RoI]

My bike certainly doesnt that!!

You may need to buy a new bike mate.

 

[Ripper]

You may need to buy a new bike mate.

You mean a bike where the wheel spins when you rotate the pedals?

 

[red_flanders]

I think we have a case of mechanical doping here. That what it looks like anyway.
But we now also have (IMO strong) visual evidence from the Tour of Flanders, when Pogacar crashes early in the race. Check this out, from 11min 43, for 20 seconds. Watch the crazy, unnatural spin on the rear wheel. My bike certainly doesnt that!! Now this is my opinion of course. ..I'm just throwing it out here. But I also think we must be super critical concerning this guy.
so here we go:

NOS Studio Sport gemist? Start met kijken op NPO Start

Met live beelden en/of samenvattingen van de belangrijkste sportwedstrijden en -evenementen van de dag. Ook met interviews en reportages.

www.npostart.nl

So when a mechanic turns the pedals the wheel spins? That's a motor? He's running a motor in the first part of the race while riding in the pack?

Uh...I don't buy clean Pogačar for a second, but come on.

 

[danielovichdk2]

I don't know. When you have a Valverde at 42 dropping him on Mur de huy then it seems pretty legit.

That was irony.

These guys are not getting caught because we have entered an era in cycling where there is enough money that it doesn't make sense to uncover these stories any longer.

It's all politics and media, and no one wins with the doping stories. Everyone seems to be agreeing on that.

I like Pog, i really do. But he is doping. No doubt imo.

 

[noob]

Let's just conclude that if Pog has gotten a special cocktail it's at least not shared with the rest of the team