Team DSM thread

[RedheadDane]

Its a DSM discussion. Something has shifted in the last few years and DSM is not performing anymore.

You know we're not allowed to talk doping outside the Clinic, right?

 

[perico]

Apparently they have signed Degenkolb to return next year. Haven’t seen this mentioned yet.

 

[Monte Serra]

DSM has posted their Vuelta lineup. As expected, no Van Wilder. Also notable that Leknessund won't make his grand tour debut yet. Hindley is apparently still not fully recovered from his Giro injury, but he is expected to be at the start in Burgos. Guess Bardet will be the GC captain, although the team hasn't spoken out their goals for the race.

• Thymen Arensman
• Romain Bardet
• Alberto Dainese
• Nico Denz
• Chad Haga
• Jai Hindley
• Michael Storer
• Martijn Tusveld

https://www.team-dsm.com/vuelta-roster-revealed/

 

[tobydawq]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419625220189605895

View: https://twitter.com/TeamDSM/status/1419625220189605895/photo/1


Pretty nice way to present the team. If only they weren't so annoying in every other aspect of their existence.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm just looking forward to Haga's summaries!

 

[BlueRoads]

I'm just looking forward to Haga's summaries!

Haga is a great writer, I hope he continues to go that path!

 

[RedheadDane]

Haga is a great writer, I hope he continues to go that path!

Maybe the books are just gonna be a compilation of those summaries.

 

[laarsland]

Leknessund tweeting that there will be no change, he’s building towards the future with DSM.

 

[steffr222]

So Hindley joining Bora isn‘t a surprise - but to be honest I didn‘t expect Storer to leave and join FDJ. I actually don‘t get what Team DSM are heading for

 

[yaco]

Reckon Storer left because he is guaranteed a spot on the TDF team - This is such an important race for Non-Europeans.

 

[Lequack]

Team DSM bites back: "Our way of working is the future".

Team DSM bijt van zich af: "Onze manier van werken is de toekomst"

Interview Te strenge regels. Tegenvallende resultaten. Renners die willen opstappen. Materiaal dat niet in orde is. Team DSM krijgt het al maanden zwaar te verduren. Maar de ploeg bijt van zich af. In een exclusief interview met WielerFlits geven hoofdcoach Rudi Kemna (53) en ploegleider Matt...

www.wielerflits.nl

"That 'working together' also means that everyone sticks to their role. Just like a mechanic doesn't bother with tactics, riders have to stick to their role. And accept being told that something is better.. "

 

[Mayomaniac]

They should try to go for a top sprinter, they already have the train, but Bol isn't a top sprinter.
Kinda surprised that they didn't go after Ackermann, that would have made sense for them and him.

 

[staubsauger]

Team DSM bites back: "Our way of working is the future".

Team DSM bijt van zich af: "Onze manier van werken is de toekomst"

Interview Te strenge regels. Tegenvallende resultaten. Renners die willen opstappen. Materiaal dat niet in orde is. Team DSM krijgt het al maanden zwaar te verduren. Maar de ploeg bijt van zich af. In een exclusief interview met WielerFlits geven hoofdcoach Rudi Kemna (53) en ploegleider Matt...

www.wielerflits.nl

"That 'working together' also means that everyone sticks to their role. Just like a mechanic doesn't bother with tactics, riders have to stick to their role. And accept being told that something is better.. "

If China takes over worlds economy they might actually be right. So far they're based in the Netherlands though. Not in North Korea or something like that.

 

[IndianCyclist]

"Working together" WTH, DSM is going the communist way and people are running away from the regime

 

[tobydawq]

They finish off by saying that it may have been a mistake to let so many riders break out of a contract because that makes their riders see that as an opportunity, and they say they will take a look at that in the future. Good luck getting any good riders on board then.

 

[Anderis]

I've just realised that DSM are 2nd last WT team in both PCS and CQ team rankings for 2021, barely above Qhubeka who had a heavily compromised transfer window due to sponsorship issues.
What's happened to this once one of the most admired teams in the peloton? The team that raced beautifully to secure Matthews green jersey in TdF? The team that enjoyed a lot of success with home grown talent like Dumoulin or Kittel? Even the team that won 3 TdF stages last year?

Will the sponsors push for management reshuffle? It seems whatever ideas for running the team they have now, aren't working.

 

[Leinster]

I've just realised that DSM are 2nd last WT team in both PCS and CQ team rankings for 2021, barely above Qhubeka who had a heavily compromised transfer window due to sponsorship issues.
What's happened to this once one of the most admired teams in the peloton? The team that raced beautifully to secure Matthews green jersey in TdF? The team that enjoyed a lot of success with home grown talent like Dumoulin or Kittel? Even the team that won 3 TdF stages last year?

Will the sponsors push for management reshuffle? It seems whatever ideas for running the team they have now, aren't working.

I think a team that has had the level of success that they have had, on supposedly one of the smaller budgets around IIRC, gets a bit of a pass for having one bad year.

The trouble is, there's no indication that next year is going to be any better, and that's where it will really get difficult.

 

[roundabout]

They lost Dumoulin, Matthews, Kelderman, Barguil, Oomen, Hirschi, Teunissen, Theuns, Kämna in the last 4 years. And they will lose Hindley.

Of course it is probably unrealistic that any team except perhaps Sky would have been able to keep everyone of them, but it is still a huge talent drain.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

and they forbid Bardet to go to the olympics and gamble everything on the Vuelta with him. And now Bardet's GC is gone within a week.

Well played DSM.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think a team that has had the level of success that they have had, on supposedly one of the smaller budgets around IIRC, gets a bit of a pass for having one bad year.

The trouble is, there's no indication that next year is going to be any better, and that's where it will really get difficult.

They only want riders that score high on the 'cooperation factor'. Ergo do what we want or get the *** out. Works wonders as you can see.

 

[Leinster]

They lost Dumoulin, Matthews, Kelderman, Barguil, Oomen, Hirschi, Teunissen, Theuns, Kämna in the last 4 years. And they will lose Hindley.

Of course it is probably unrealistic that any team except perhaps Sky would have been able to keep everyone of them, but it is still a huge talent drain.

Kept Bol, though.

 

[Mayomaniac]

and they forbid Bardet to go to the olympics and gamble everything on the Vuelta with him. And now Bardet's GC is gone within a week.

Well played DSM.

Bardet should have told them to shove it, that was once in a career chane for him as th sole leader of the French team and after a decent Giro finding another team shouldn't be that hard...

 

[roundabout]

That feels a bit like hindsight to me even if I think that with optimum preparation Bardet could have had a better placing in the Olympics than in the Vuelta.

 

[AlfaLum]

Bardet should have told them to shove it, that was once in a career chane for him as th sole leader of the French team and after a decent Giro finding another team shouldn't be that hard...

Yeah, of course he would have been sole leader if you compare his recent performances with those of David Gaudu...

 

[Leinster]

That feels a bit like hindsight to me even if I think that with optimum preparation Bardet could have had a better placing in the Olympics than in the Vuelta.

With equal hindsight, best case scenario for Bardet in that Olympics RR would have been top 5, more likely top 10. With smaller team sizes, I think it's very unlikely that he and Gaudu would have made the front group, so a wash for Team France. And if he recovers well, a stage win at this Vuelta is still a possibility.