I guarantee you that they both are getting a little bonus from the sunglasses company for wearing them during interviewsFirst Roglic, then Bennett.
Someone really ought to teach those guys to not wear sunglasses during interviews.
At this stage, if they don’t win the Tour, are they the new PDM?I have the feeling that it's just going too well for them at the moment, that streak could end during the Tour.
I can't recall a single year when PDM went to the Tour with one of the top two favorites for the win in their roster.At this stage, if they don’t win the Tour, are they the new PDM?
Yeah... Good timing. Gesink crushing the peloton today, dropping FroomeStill think it would have been better to take De Plus instead (regardless of his departure) and Amund G. Jansen instead of Gesink.
Froome was dropped by 80 riders not only Gesink. But yeah, Gesink is a fantastic domestique, he can be used on the flat, hills or mountains. And he always gives his all for the team. It's a good thing he is on the Tour squad.Yeah... Good timing. Gesink crushing the peloton today, dropping Froome![]()
Delgado did finish 2nd in 87, tbf. And Lemond would have been THE hot favorite that year had he made it to the start line. Rooks was definitely one of the favorites (in an open field) in 88. And Breukink after his 3rd in 1990 was one of the top favorites in another very open field in 91, certainly shorter odds before the start than Indurain.I can't recall a single year when PDM went to the Tour with one of the top two favorites for the win in their roster.
I believe Lemond would still have been with La Vie Claire in 1987.Delgado did finish 2nd in 87, tbf. And Lemond would have been THE hot favorite that year had he made it to the start line. Rooks was definitely one of the favorites (in an open field) in 88. And Breukink after his 3rd in 1990 was one of the top favorites in another very open field in 91, certainly shorter odds before the start than Indurain.
Right, I looked that up and didn't remember the timeline right.I believe Lemond would still have been with La Vie Claire in 1987.
The pace was good, but not lethal. If all like 30 riders who target a GC are still there it's not crushing the peloton, IMO ... but yeah, he did a good job.Yeah... Good timing. Gesink crushing the peloton today, dropping Froome![]()
Yes Kuss usually needs some time to get into form. I expect him to perform better as the race goes on.The pace was good, but not lethal. If all like 30 riders who target a GC are still there it's not crushing the peloton, IMO ... but yeah, he did a good job.
It was Kuss who didn't look all that hot. Wonder if he'll perform today, on a finish that should suit him more.
There's a big difference between being 'a favorite' and being the top favorite.Delgado did finish 2nd in 87, tbf. And Lemond would have been THE hot favorite that year had he made it to the start line. Rooks was definitely one of the favorites (in an open field) in 88. And Breukink after his 3rd in 1990 was one of the top favorites in another very open field in 91, certainly shorter odds before the start than Indurain.
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were coming at it from that angle, in which case I agree. My point was more that PDM were the strongest team in cycling in the late 80s/early 90s, but could just never win the big one.If Roglic wins Dauphiné and does not win Le Tour it will be way worse than anything PDM ever did.
Delgado was a top favorite in 1987 going into the TdF along with Bernard, Roche, and Fignon, but there wasn’t a clear favorite like now. There were a couple of years where Breukink was considered a **** star favorite as well.I can't recall a single year when PDM went to the Tour with one of the top two favorites for the win in their roster.
Are they thinking Kruijswijk will be better than both, too?I'm just laughing at Dutch people thinking Dumoulin will be better than Roglic in the Tour.
Not that far, but they will insist stuff like Kruijswijk > Pogacar all because of July/Dutch tardismAre they thinking Kruijswijk will be better than both, too?
Told you about KussYes Kuss usually needs some time to get into form. I expect him to perform better as the race goes on.
Told you about Kuss
He didn't need much time though. But he can still be inconsistent at times so I wouldn't be surprised if he has a not super day in the coming stages.
Yes, both Delgado 87 and Breukink 91 were 4-star candidates.Delgado was a top favorite in 1987 going into the TdF along with Bernard, Roche, and Fignon, but there wasn’t a clear favorite like now. There were a couple of years where Breukink was considered a **** star favorite as well.
Was Roche 5-star in '87? He'd won Romandie and the Giro, (and nearly Paris Nice and Liege) but a GT double was always going to be a tough ask. With no Hinault or Lemond it was an open field.Yes, both Delgado 87 and Breukink 91 were 4-star candidates.
But Roche 87 and Lemond 91 were 5-star candidates.
Roglic is a 5-star candidate as of today.
TJV is not in a position similar to PDM, it's in a better position. If they fail, it will be a bigger failure.
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