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He's more consistent than some of the other contenders, but I don't see how he has anything over Nibali. Even if their climbing is equal, and if Kruijswijk TTs better I think Nibs descending prowess would undo that difference alone. A good descender might be able to follow Nibali, and Nibali would have to take risks to drop an average descender, but Kruijswijk isn't even an average descender and has a habit of getting dropped on descents and lose significant time.
All of what you said is true its just good to have another contender in a edition lacking many top talents.
 
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Kru and Thomas instead of Remco and Carapaz is rather a downgrade in the quality of contenders.
Remco is still unproven over 3 weeks, if we talk about potential, then yes, it's a downgrade, but we don't know how he'd have done in his first gt. Besides Nibali Kru is by far the most solid and constant gt rider on the startlist right now, he's a great addition and we should see a great rematch between him and Nibali.
 
I expect them to dominate the first two weeks. Maybe they will decline in the 3rd.
Martin is going to do his usual 150-200km TT on the flat stages. If he is still at the top of his game they won´t need anyone else to control the race.
Meaning that Van Aert might even get some freedom to go for stage wins or even the green jersey.
Except for Martin the entire team is good enough to keep up with the peletion on medium mountain or hilly stages. Wouldn´t be suprised if a reduced peleton with 40 riders still has 6-7 guys from JBV.
In the high mountains they might have an even bigger advantage. Gesink is a veteran and did a good job in the prep races. Kuss looked great in the Dauphine. Bennett could probably go for the GC himself and climbed as good as anyone not named Evenepoel or Roglic in the last few weeks.

Really hope that someone can challenge them. Would hate to see them control every single stage but wouldn´t be suprised if most mountain stages end with a sprint leadout for Roglic.
 
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Some dents in the armor showing today (stage 8). Kuss dropped early (maybe a bad day, maybe suffering from crash a couple days ago). Bennett is a little better but probably still feeling crashes from stage 1. Dumoulin is gone as a GC guy (but he never looked to be in top form for this year's TDF and is still progressing from a terrible 2019). But Dumo can be a strong support rider for Roglic, and WVA has been incredible. Their GC hopes are very much alive (for now). But if something happens to Roglic, no plan B (unless pursuit of green jersey with WVA). -- But yeah, three stage wins so far . . . hardly a miserable failure. :D
 
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Strange strategy today. Why burn up Dumoulin as a domestique setting pace if Roglic was just going to follow wheels? Wouldn't a better strategy have been to have Dumoulin stay in line and let Carapaz come forward to set pace for the group? Appears they just lost their insurance policy against Roglic folding in week three for nothing gained.
 
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Strange strategy today. Why burn up Dumoulin as a domestique setting pace if Roglic was just going to follow wheels? Wouldn't a better strategy have been to have Dumoulin stay in line and let Carapaz come forward to set pace for the group? Appears they just lost their insurance policy against Roglic folding in week three for nothing gained.
Tom decided himself for this move. He didn't tell JV for it.
 
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Overall good performance today, on the stage 8, from JV. What likely happened is Sepp Kuss wasn't able to put the pressure on for long enough, and Tom Dumoulin stepped up. He always said, if it will be his turn, he will do that.

Hats off.
 
Tom decided himself for this move. He didn't tell JV for it.
Well, it was still a stupid decision, and his DS should have stopped him. But regardless of what Dumoulin ended up doing, Jumbo had already used up all their domestiques for literally nothing. And Roglič decided to follow wheels instead of trying to take advantage of his current form and perhaps eliminate Bernal because... they don't want the yellow jersey? Even though they've been working at the front all week as if they already had it? I just can't wrap my head around it.
 
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I donot know what the issue is Overconfidence maybe. Usually the Strategy team, the DS etc know how the riders are doing thru feedback after and during the race. and the tactics are changed based on that. If it was known that Kuss and Bennett are not feeling good, the strategy would be to push on the last climb instead of penultimate one. The feedback loop is not working and they have to correct it in the following stages.
A tactic exposes the weakness of the team is bad. There is another important part in the division of labor. You have to switch the positions in the climbing train and give all the persons in the train some rest
Dumoulin is still within 3 minutes which is good for a long range attack if required. he has done that in 2018
 
So getting the yellow jersey after stage 9 is great, good job everybody, but getting it by taking time on most of your rivals on stage 8 would be a silly waste of energy.
You should check the interviews. JV team didn't feel good on stage 8. Doms dropped too quickly, they had trouble with Tom and plan was to follow the attacks. Stage 9 dom's were feeling better and Roglič also told directors that he's feeling really good (in the middle of the race) so they decided to go for yellow jersey or at least fight to make a difference.
 
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In retrospective, likely some tension has started to build up on stage 6, got confirmed on stage 8 and Dumoulin stepping up, to fill the gap, that paid off on stage 9.

As a team therefore in my opinion they did a great job. People sending Roglič in some reckless attacks, that would result in people saying Movistar all over again.
 
So getting the yellow jersey after stage 9 is great, good job everybody, but getting it by taking time on most of your rivals on stage 8 would be a silly waste of energy.
Exactly. They didn't want it "too soon" so they just knackered the entire team except Roglic, with nothing to show for it, other than taking out their 2nd GC rider and paving the way for a rival to get back into the game. As if the weight would have been any more or any less on their shoulder, and as if they would have told their team to do any more or any less work otherwise. For one day. Insanity.
 
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