Laughs in 2012 DauphineYeah, worst Dauphiné ever. By a country mile. Everyone's sayin' that.
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Laughs in 2012 DauphineYeah, worst Dauphiné ever. By a country mile. Everyone's sayin' that.
Like I said, they're out Team Skying Ineos with riders that have produced in the past.Loys of murmurs and disquiet in the peloton about JV ...some unreal numbers and dominance
If it looks too good to be true then it usually is
plus WVA for stage wins.
Jumbos 3rd climbing dom and a bunch sprinter. Really nothing to see here. Completely normal that riders can do it all.
Like Sagan in the 2015 Tour of California, when he won a sprints, the ITT and was on the podium on every single stage but the MTF, when he still finished 6th, ahead of Gesink and Zubeldia.Jumbos 3rd climbing dom and a bunch sprinter. Really nothing to see here. Completely normal that riders can do it all.
Jumbos 3rd climbing dom and a bunch sprinter. Really nothing to see here. Completely normal that riders can do it all.
Fair enough for probably the world's best current all rounder I'd say. Won in a very similar fashion in a similar stage finish last year (Stage 10) , beating some v. good sprinters and fast finishers.
Wait... wasn't it you that was cheering on an 18 year old "cobbled/classics" first year pro coming straight out of the juniors, for being such a good climber, outclimbing Rivera, Foss, Piccoli, Bouwman, Tolhoek etc, like the exact same day you were posting this?Jumbos 3rd climbing dom and a bunch sprinter. Really nothing to see here. Completely normal that riders can do it all.
I'm not sure if you know what dominance means.Agree. WVA was absolutely dominant in CX over the entirety of seasons. His first try at the TdF last year and gets a stage. Wins MSR.... (!!) That is what internationally extraordinary talent does that isn't doping. Pretty sure he's the real thing.
IF the UCI/ASO is "married" to Lotto Jumbo Visma the way they were to Sky, and before that Postal, you would see routine ordinary->extraordinary performances that strain credibility.
Roglic, and pretty much the whole jumbo TdF squad has been near several grand tour podiums.
He's not a top 20 climber in the race though. He put in a max effort while most other climbers were still thinking about the next climb still to come.you really can't see the difference logic? A young rider testing his strengths in a random 2.1 race with a weak startlist vs a TDF stage winning bunch sprinter who is also a top 20 climber in the same race?
The thing that is most weird to me isn't WVA's climbing. Strong man sprinters can often be pretty good climbers if they put their mind to it. And his climbing isn't that off the charts in this race so far.The first part is true, but i really have my doubts about the 2nd part.
No i can't. It's not any more normal for a 72kg classics riding neo pro, coming straight from juniors, never having been "a climber" to randomly beat actual climbers for a stage and GC, than a known powerhouse as van Aert, who has been long known for crunching out insane watts, to do one huge pull, before parking sideways. You may want to ridicule the "weak startlist", but maybe you should try again, because there are some pretty good climbers on the startlist.you really can't see the difference logic? A young rider testing his strengths in a random 2.1 race with a weak startlist vs a TDF stage winning bunch sprinter who is also a top 20 climber in the same race?
Don't forget the TT.................Van Aert going beyond the ridiculous.