Team Jumbo-Visma

[Riek s]

what 58kg? for 1m75? I was under the impression he weighted 62kg and even that is questionable low for surviving a GT

 

[Krzysztof_O]

what 58kg? for 1m75? I was under the impression he weighted 62kg and even that is questionable low for surviving a GT

I wouldn't be surprised if he was 60 kg or less, he's ridiculously skinny.

 

[noob]

For the Danes that keeps an eye on what happens with the Danish cycling scene, you can't really say that The Duck (let's be honest, look at the beak!) has come from out of nowhere - or that he hasn't been expected to do well as a GT contender. I know it's been mentioned by others already... Just to give the necessary perspective on his junior years. He's a scrawny guy with, apparantly, huge lungs - but he comes from the flattest, most windy place in Denmark (where the wind always blows!) - The Jutland West Coast. He had a tough time competing as a junior, where it's every rider for themselves - but i wouldn't have scored a single point as a rider myself if every race i did was in the mountains. Not as much of a disadvantage for a small guy in the wind, i know - but it's still gonna be hard to pick up the wins. As he came into his mid teen years, he started to rack up the results. At age 21, riding for Danish Conti-team Colo-Quick, he had a test with Team Danmark, who manages the national teams across a multitude of sports, and several articles was written on these tests:

"21-year-old Jonas Vingegaard rides around Thy with a physique, many cyclists have good reason to envy. - He simply has a pump and heart that is in a class of its own. This is the assessment from Lars Johansen, who is a sports physiologist at Team Denmark. He is deeply impressed with the cycling talent Jonas Vingegaard, who has delivered a test result that Danish experts have not seen before. - Hans is clearly free of the average of Danish, male cyclists. He has a plus maybe 15 percent and that is marked. In other words, Jonas Vingegaard is a name worth noting. The 21-year-old North Jutlander is blessed with optimal physique and an extraordinary talent for cycling. - If his development can continue, then he will come a long way. As in really, really far, says Christian Andersen, who is sports director at Team ColoQuick. - He can ride in all kinds of terrain, and then he is extremely good uphill. When he is completely down to weigh 58 kilograms, he steps really, really many watts per kilogram. Right now Jonas Vingegaard is driving around North Jutland and hopes that with a professional contract he can get the opportunity to settle in Spain, where the hills are significantly higher than in Denmark. - The first dream is to become a professional, and then you have a dream to win the Tour de France one day, it sounds from Vingegaard himself. "
(translated from Danish TV2 - original found here: https://sport.tv2.dk/cykling/2018-07-26-dansk-talent-med-saerligt-hjerte-spraenger-testrekorder

Now, i've followed cycling for too many years to really believe that the riders at the very top are doing it clean. So i'm not even gonna get in to that side of the discussion...

You gotta hand it to the Danish birds, though. First flew the Eagle. Then the Chicken was plucked and slaughtered. Now we've got a Duck taking off - not to forget the Singing Bird also worth mentioning!

Thank you! This about his physical is key imo. He is the smallest, even of the climbers. He's crazy skinny, but also looks like he has a crazy narrow bonestructure. No hips, no chest, no nothing. With many when they are skinny they look scary. He doeosn't look as scary as most when equally skinny.

To continue the bird references. Asgreen, Wahlgren. The latter moving to a Bjerg maybe hints at that he wished he was an eagle too

 

[Riek s]

Thank you! This about his physical is key imo. He is the smallest, even of the climbers. He's crazy skinny, but also looks like he has a crazy narrow bonestructure. No hips, no chest, no nothing. With many when they are skinny they look scary. He doeosn't look as scary as most when equally skinny.

I wouldn't say he doesn't look scary.. some pictures are....

But you are right, I would never guess he would weigh less than 60kg... maybe his lungs are filled with helium. (note for the same height/weight ratio, Remco should drop 6kg compared to his state in Norway. Such low fat/muscle is completely rediculous imho. Can't imagine that this doesn't have any averse effect on duration/performance or what have you.

 

[noob]

I wouldn't say he doesn't look scary.. some pictures are....

But you are right, I would never guess he would weigh less than 60kg... maybe his lungs are filled with helium. (note for the same height/weight ratio, Remco should drop 6kg compared to his state in Norway. Such low fat/muscle is completely rediculous imho. Can't imagine that this doesn't have any averse effect on duration/performance or what have you.

Comparing with for example Rasmussen himself the difference is huge imo. He had a slightly bigger build.

Also I would never suggest any elite sport is healthy, with or without doping, so the only thing I mean is in comparison to most others Jonas really has the build for a climber.

His explosions and sprints is what I find the most suspicious. It doesn't look right to my eyes, the guy is too small. Also I would say that's where he has improved too much for me to believe it. Long climbs was always his thing.

 

[Riek s]

Comparing with for example Rasmussen himself the difference is huge imo. He had a slightly bigger build.

Also I would never suggest any elite sport is healthy, with or without doping, so the only thing I mean is in comparison to most others Jonas really has the build for a climber.

His explosions and sprints is what I find the most suspicious. It doesn't look right to my eyes, the guy is too small. Also I would say that's where he has improved too much for me to believe it. Long climbs was always his thing.

I will probably regret that google search....

 

[noob]

I will probably regret that google search....

The difference between how he looks today is astounding. I cannot imagine Jonas would be this broad even after his carrer ended :O Not that Rasmussen is a big guy or anything, just he's not tiniest of tiny

That Coca Cola pic is to die for btw

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=592594198893582&set=pb.100044290217148.-2207520000..

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

 

[ppanther92]

Lol...

 

[Savant12]

Team Jumbo Postal.

 

[BR2]

Shitshow of a race. I thought they really crossed a line with Pogacar. But Jumbo beats it easily.

 

[Ricco']

Team Jumbo Postal.

Van Aert dedicating this Tour to his son Georges pulling a George Hincapie on steroids.

 

[burning]

Team Jumbo Postal.

Jumbo Festina or Gewiss is probably more accurate. Even Postal 2004-2005 was not this deep on rider strength.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Hautacam does what Hautacam does.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

It doesn't seem like the individual riders actually matter. You take anybody, put them in a jumbo kit and they are stronger than anyone else.

 

[firefly3323]

Where do they fall in the all time ranking of most absurd team?

 

[Pantani Attacks]

And people had to nerve to complain about Pogacar....

This is up there with Bahrain's nonsense last year. At least that appears to be done. This could go into Skytrain era lengths. Utter shitshow.

 

[saganftw]

as Romans said after Jesus resurrected after 3 days : "It is what it is"

 

[Ricco']

It doesn't seem like the individual riders actually matter. You take anybody, put them in a jumbo kit and they are stronger than anyone else.

Tom D being the exception

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

I never visit this sub-forum but this is hard to believe.
Also could someone anesthetize Rob Hatch?

 

[fbjim]

i was legitimately terrified that WVA was going for the KOM jersey lmao

 

[Mayomaniac]

Jumbo Festina or Gewiss is probably more accurate. Even Postal 2004-2005 was not this deep on rider strength.

1996-1997 Telekom with a shot of 2012 Sky.
For a moment I feared that they'd go 1-2 with Wout and Wineyard.

 

[Mayomaniac]

i was legitimately terrified that WVA was going for the KOM jersey lmao

The guy must be glowing in the dark..

 

[roundabout]

Imagine if Roglic and Kruijswijk were there too

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Tom D being the exception

Tom D seems like he did that stuff in 2015-18 and it messed with his head. So he probably refuse to go on full jumbo program