Team Jumbo-Visma

[Ilmaestro99]

Masnada spent the night in Kranjska Gora before his 2nd place in Lombardia.

I'm sure he had a nice relaxing night of deep sleep and good pasta at breakfast

 

[iceblink]

it's just weird that you're not also posting in the thread for the guy who's a 37 year old former classics rider and is now the 2nd best climber in the Giro after being hot garbage all season. seems like there's some kind of bias at work here to me.

Thomas never did a superhuman TT anywhere close to freaks like Dumoulin (Bergen 2017), Alaphilippe (Stage 13 Pau 2019 ), Pogacar (Belles Filles 2020) or Roglic (Tokyo 2021).

It's not hard to spot the cheats.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Masnada spent the night in Kranjska Gora before his 2nd place in Lombardia.

Nope, but probably also at home, he's from Bergamo after all.

 

[zlev11]

Thomas never did a superhuman TT anywhere close to freaks like Dumoulin (Bergen 2017), Alaphilippe (Stage 13 Pau 2019 ), Pogacar (Belles Filles 2020) or Roglic (Tokyo 2021).

It's not hard to spot the cheats.

today was a super freak performance from him

 

[iceblink]

today was a super freak performance from him

The gap between Thomas in 2nd place and Arensman in 8th place was less than the gap between Roglic and Thomas.

That's completely believable from world-class time trialler and climber Thomas to have six riders within 38 seconds of him. (Almeida, Caruso, Pinot, Kuss, McNulty and Arensman)

Roglic's performance today and in Tokyo are clear outliers and obviously dodgy. (like the other examples, it's not hard to spot them)

 

[zlev11]

The gap between Thomas in 2nd place and Arensman in 8th place was less than the gap between Roglic and Thomas.

That's completely believable from world-class time trialler and climber Thomas to have six riders within 38 seconds of him. (Almeida, Caruso, Pinot, Kuss, McNulty and Arensman)

Roglic's performance today and in Tokyo are clear outliers and obviously dodgy. (like the other examples, it's not hard to spot them)

The field is weak. Thomas is there with all the other GC riders in the top 5. Roglic has three more recent GT wins than Thomas and is 4 years younger. It's much more believable than Thomas being a world-class climber in the first place. Todays TT suited Roglic maybe more than any rider in the entire current peloton.

 

[argyllflyer]

Geraint was delighted Roguelic "smashed" him. Me too as hopefully this is one day stripped from the man who climbs as fast as he flew downhill.

 

[zlev11]

Geraint was delighted Roguelic "smashed" him. Me too as hopefully this is one day stripped from the man who climbs as fast as he flew downhill.

god i love it. lmao.

 

[iceblink]

The field is weak. Thomas is there with all the other GC riders in the top 5. Roglic has three more recent GT wins than Thomas and is 4 years younger. It's much more believable than Thomas being a world-class climber in the first place. Todays TT suited Roglic maybe more than any rider in the entire current peloton.

Look stop being dumb. Jumbo clearly have the dodgiest team in cycling history last few years (I mean they used to be a cool team, but not now). Close competitors are UAE and Bahrain, but Jumbo really are taking the piss with some of the ridiculous riders they have.

 

[zlev11]

Look stop being dumb. Jumbo clearly have the dodgiest team in cycling history last few years (I mean they used to be a cool team, but not now). Close competitors are UAE and Bahrain, but Jumbo really are taking the piss with some of the ridiculous riders they have.

you stop being dumb, Ineos were easily the dodgiest team in this race. poor Geraint was beaten at his own game.

 

[iceblink]

you stop being dumb, Ineos were easily the dodgiest team in this race. poor Geraint was beaten at his own game.

Deluded.

Enjoy the mutant Vingegard winning Le Tour, even if his entire team collapses he doesn't need them, like Pog, he has something else which zooms him up those mountains

(Sky/Ineos riders never did anything as ridiculous as those two, they used boring but very believable and powerful tactics to get their GC wins - and maybe the odd TUE, but that's minor compared to the cheating by likes of Jumbo and others)

 

[zlev11]

Deluded.

Enjoy the mutant Vingegard winning Le Tour, even if his entire team collapses he doesn't need them, like Pog, he has something else which zooms him up those mountains

(Sky/Ineos riders never did anything as ridiculous as those two, they used boring but very believable and powerful tactics to get their GC wins - and maybe the odd TUE, but that's minor compared to the cheating by likes of Jumbo and others)

you ever see Mont Ventoux 2013? or did you just start watching cycling in 2018?

 

[iceblink]

you ever see Mont Ventoux 2013? or did you just start watching cycling in 2018?

Yes, that was nothing like the obvious cheating of Roglic and Pogacar recently. Froome won by 29 seconds over another good climber Quintana, and Froome had by FAR THE BETTER DOMESTIQUES helping him up the climb.

You see, Froome had the best team ever assembled in history, and won just by 29 seconds. Froome never won more than a bronze at Olympics and Worlds TT.

You need to cheat to win by over a minute against a world class field, like several of Jumbo's riders have done. UAE also suspect.

 

[ZamlinusYoutubeious]

On the defence like it's 1940

 

[veganrob]

Deluded.

Enjoy the mutant Vingegard winning Le Tour, even if his entire team collapses he doesn't need them, like Pog, he has something else which zooms him up those mountains

(Sky/Ineos riders never did anything as ridiculous as those two, they used boring but very believable and powerful tactics to get their GC wins - and maybe the odd TUE, but that's minor compared to the cheating by likes of Jumbo and others)

There is nothing more mutant and unbelievable than Fromme, Wiggo and Thomas

 

[zlev11]

Yes, that was nothing like the obvious cheating of Roglic and Pogacar recently. Froome won by 29 seconds over another good climber Quintana, and Froome had by FAR THE BETTER DOMESTIQUES helping him up the climb.

You see, Froome had the best team ever assembled in history, and won just by 29 seconds. Froome never won more than a bronze at Olympics and Worlds TT.

You need to cheat to win by over a minute against a world class field, like several of Jumbo's riders have done. UAE also suspect.

the peloton let Quintana go up the road at the start of the climb. Froome then obliterated the most talented rider of a generation off of his wheel with the most ridiculous seated acceleration anyone has ever seen.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The gap between Thomas in 2nd place and Arensman in 8th place was less than the gap between Roglic and Thomas.

That's completely believable from world-class time trialler and climber Thomas to have six riders within 38 seconds of him. (Almeida, Caruso, Pinot, Kuss, McNulty and Arensman)

Roglic's performance today and in Tokyo are clear outliers and obviously dodgy. (like the other examples, it's not hard to spot them)

The problem with your argument is the proximity of the words "world-class" "climber" "Thomas" and "believable" is such a ludicrous starting premise in and of itself.

Your statement about Roglič would meet with little opposition if not preceded by attempts to legitimise even more dubious performances.

 

[macbindle]

The problem with your argument is the proximity of the words "world-class" "climber" "Thomas" and "believable" is such a ludicrous starting premise in and of itself.

Your statement about Roglič would meet with little opposition if not preceded by attempts to legitimise even more dubious performances.

And your credentials are?

Anything?

Former pro? Team management? Elite rider? Or even just a 1st cat?

Or are you just somebody who posts a lot on cycling forums...

 

[Riek s]

Tthis MTT didn't seem overly impressive in terms of performance/result compared to some other numbers we have been seeing? No sure if we have good power numbers, but from what i saw, the first part (steepest part), where Kus was apparently the fastest, was estimated at 6,1W/kg.

 

[topt]

Deluded.

Enjoy the mutant Vingegard winning Le Tour, even if his entire team collapses he doesn't need them, like Pog, he has something else which zooms him up those mountains

(Sky/Ineos riders never did anything as ridiculous as those two, they used boring but very believable and powerful tactics to get their GC wins - and maybe the odd TUE, but that's minor compared to the cheating by likes of Jumbo and others)

is this guy joking with us

 

[Hugh Januss]

I see that the clinic is still playing that old game "your guy is a dirty cheating doper, but my guy is clean, cleans I tell you!" LMFAO

 

[Hugh Januss]

is this guy joking with us

He is, but I'm not sure he knows it.

 

[dobrien]

the most ridiculous seated acceleration anyone has ever seen.

Fabian Cancellara, 2010 Flanders, Mur de Grammont: "Hold my beer!"

 

[iceblink]

There is nothing more mutant and unbelievable than Fromme, Wiggo and Thomas

Yeah unless you stupid there is, Roglic, Vingegaard and Pocagar.

ACTUALLY mutants.

Picking on British riders without much factual justification just shows you are deluded idiot with an agenda, if you think mutants riding up mountains in crucial time trials a full minute ahead of the rest of the world class field isn't obvious red flag then you are basically dumb.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Yeah unless you stupid there is, Roglic, Vingegaard and Pocagar.

ACTUALLY mutants.

Picking on British riders without much factual justification just shows you are deluded idiot with an agenda, if you think mutants riding up mountains in crucial time trials a full minute ahead of the rest of the world class field isn't obvious red flag then you are basically dumb.

You really need to take this act on the road, you would kill!