Team Jumbo-Visma

[zlev11]

I think people who believe that Froome's salbutamol finding was relevant to his Grand Tour wins are the one's needing disqualifying from rational consideration.

I mean even Armstrong on his blog/channel couldn't imagine what the *** the benefit of the asthma puffer would have been for the top level GC contenders

edit: ie salbutamol doesn't zoom you up steep mountains at Belles Filles TT, Worlds TT, Olympics TT and Giro TT effectively over a minute against the rest of the field, like what Jumbo riders Dumoulin/Roglic must have been taking (and Pogacar of course, the worst offender in history to get away with it so far)

lol Armstrong? Armstrong has no idea about what goes into a doping cocktail after 2010. the guy had a MASSIVE amount of salbutamol in his system, more than you could ever take by using an inhaler. he had to be injecting the stuff. that is doping. he tested positive.

and as far as it being "relevant to his Grand Tour wins". his positive test was at a grand tour! that he won! talk about burying your head in the sand.

 

[macbindle]

lol Armstrong? Armstrong has no idea about what goes into a doping cocktail after 2010.

He knows more that you do.

 

[topcat]

View: https://youtu.be/cvo99q4S3Xo

 

[Lui98]

Valter

 

[BR2]

Finally the German commentators actually discuss possible doping. Even though the don't use the word of course...
They are mostly playing it down. Not guys who never showed anything, etc...

 

[PhiLiz]

no that's exactly what testing positive is. why is there a threshold in the first place then? this post alone should disqualify you from ever being taken seriously on this forum (if there's actually anyone left that still does). you're nothing but a British fanboy.

There isn't.

 

[iceblink]

lol Armstrong? Armstrong has no idea about what goes into a doping cocktail after 2010. the guy had a MASSIVE amount of salbutamol in his system, more than you could ever take by using an inhaler. he had to be injecting the stuff. that is doping. he tested positive.

and as far as it being "relevant to his Grand Tour wins". his positive test was at a grand tour! that he won! talk about burying your head in the sand.

You seem very anti-British to be fair.

Are you French, American or just a ***?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

JV have made another step forward in the arms race. Their superman is now unbeatable even on shorter climbs (with more showings still to come) while Kuss is already at the level of Teddy, who's left behind in the race with his outdated methods from 2020-21.

 

[therealthing]

Hahahahahaha. 1994 Fleche except it's the TDF

 

[Simurgh]

this might very well top vintage SKY (Ax-3 and Ventoux 2013 + PSM 2015), if it hasn't already

 

[pastronef]

this is beyond what Sky did. bamboozling

 

[therealthing]

Not to mention Van Aert pulling the breakaway all day including up the Tourmalet dropping most of them, and now pulling the front group alone and putting time into the massive yellow jersey group

 

[rghysens]

this is beyond what Sky did. bamboozling

Even beyond uspostal.

 

[BobFossil]

Not to mention Van Aert pulling the breakaway all day including up the Tourmalet dropping most of them, and now pulling the front group alone and putting time into the massive yellow jersey group

While everyone else Wout was trying to beat in the sprints a couple of days ago is over 20 minutes back, he's up the front of the race, ripping the legs off 60kg climbers. Ludicrous rider.

 

[Savant12]

Wout crushing it up mountains and probably taking the Green jersey, again.

 

[Bonimenier]

They are doing their best hiding it today.

 

[Riek s]

what are we seeing today. JV decimating the peleton... with 4 guys left after riding whole day. (UAE as well, but didn't ride at all).

Even in Lance his years we haven't seen this form of dominance

are they riding so hard so that they can go full gas without the possibility of taking the top time? (due to earlier fatique)

 

[therealthing]

Their faces when Majka came passed 😂😂😂

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Their team mascot can outclimb half the Peloton.

 

[ontheroad]

We need to talk about Sepp Kuss. He has got even stronger again despite having ridden the Giro. Up to 6th on GC despite playing the role of super dom, he really should be riding for GC with this level of performance.

 

[Red Rick]

We need to talk about Sepp Kuss. He has got even stronger again despite having ridden the Giro. Up to 6th on GC despite playing the role of super dom, he really should be riding for GC with this level of performance.

Of all the mutants on Jumbo, Kuss doesn't come closs to Jumbo's big 3.

 

[Rackham]

I actually felt Kuss was on the verge of feeling the Giro in his legs yesterday. Yates just brushed him aside pretty easily.

And I think this could be a problem for Jumbo on Loze, especially since he played such a huge role on the same mountain 3 years ago.

 

[ontheroad]

Of all the mutants on Jumbo, Kuss doesn't come closs to Jumbo's big 3.

He doesn’t get the same level of spotlight and those 3 are extra terrestrial but I wouldn’t be down playing what Kuss has been doing. Fifth on that stage yesterday after riding super dom and with the Giro in the bank is remarkable.

Just look at the huge time gaps on yesterdays stage if you want to assess his performance.

Van Aert almost riding to a standstill on Joux Plane only to start pulling again minutes later was one of the more bizarre moments I’ve seen in recent years.

 

[Rob5091]

Van Aert almost riding to a standstill on Joux Plane only to start pulling again minutes later was one of the more bizarre moments I’ve seen in recent years.

UAE's doms have been doing the same so it's all very mind blowing.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

what are we seeing today. JV decimating the peleton... with 4 guys left after riding whole day. (UAE as well, but didn't ride at all).

Even in Lance his years we haven't seen this form of dominance

are they riding so hard so that they can go full gas without the possibility of taking the top time? (due to earlier fatique)

I see you have forgotten the period of cycling from 2012 to 2018.