Teams & Riders Team Visma - Lease a Bike

[OJRvE]

Well it's very obvious that there were many cases in this Tour, when ASO published clearly tactical info in these Race Radio broadcasts..I was really wondering how the hell they (teams in general) allowed them to do that.

But wasnt everything aired a few hours late?

 

[jono]

Well it's very obvious that there were many cases in this Tour, when ASO published clearly tactical info in these Race Radio broadcasts..I was really wondering how the hell they (teams in general) allowed them to do that.

I feel like I watched most of the stages, but I don't recall any tactical information shared that wasn't blindingly obvious, or broadcast far too late to be of any value to any competitors.

 

[Oldermanish]

I feel like I watched most of the stages, but I don't recall any tactical information shared that wasn't blindingly obvious, or broadcast far too late to be of any value to any competitors.

That's because you've seen enough cycling to know what's going on and so do the riders. If there was any serious tactical info they could talk to a select rider or use "going to plan B" like some teams in F1. It's kind of annoying actually.

 

[jono]

That's because you've seen enough cycling to know what's going on and so do the riders. If there was any serious tactical info they could talk to a select rider or use "going to plan B" like some teams in F1. It's kind of annoying actually.

Sorry, my point was that I don't understand what Visma or any of the teams could possibly have objected to being shared.

 

[Oldermanish]

Sorry, my point was that I don't understand what Visma or any of the teams could possibly have objected to being shared.

We agree. Most of the stuff broadcast was motivational sh*t or the customary "get to the front" stuff. Hardly tactical secrets.
I think they are more discreet if it's important. The rest is just for viewer interest and seems to reinforce the basic-knowledge dialogue the commentators share.
It would be interesting to hear rider pushback like in F1 when a car is running poorly or they get cut off by a RedBull Dutchman or Canadian Wanker. Pretty spicy chatting, then. Could get cluttered with 170 guys....

 

[CyclistAbi]

So i guess now down to GC Kuss, to try to save the GT season.

 

[Statze2]

As some of you are discussing the van Aert rumour i thougth it is nice to make a short summary about the 2025 Visma LAB.
According to pcs they have 24 riders under contract for 2025.

Visma has some obvious leaders:

-van Aert for the classics
- Vingegaard for the tour and other big stage races
- Kooij for the sprints

Behind these leaders they have some swiss army knifes and thats probably the biggest strength of this team that they have riders who can shine on various terrains. Jorgensen, van Baarle, Valter and Benoot. As new addition in the swiss army knife team i see Bart Lemmen.

For the mountains they have proven riders like Kelderman and Kuss who can step in a GC role or support Vingegaard very, very long. In addition to them they have Cian, Tulett, Gloag, Staune-Mitett and Nordhagen as talented GC riders or climbing domestiques. And Kruijswijk as old but proven mountain work horse.

The classic/sprint team is completed by riders like Laporte, Hagenes, Brennan and van der Sande.
Riders like Huising, Graat and van Belle i´m not sure where i should place them. Maybe someone can help?

New additions according to the rumours should be Simon Yates - perfect for GC in the Giro or Vuelta and a very good climbing domestique for the Tour.
Thijssen as addition for the sprints and classics.

All in all the team is very well rounded and can play a serious role in every race they want to.
Where do they have some potential? With the departure of the van Dijke brothers they are a little bit short in the classic, roleur typ of rider. So thats what i would aim for. But in the end this team is so good and if they don´t have the same bad luck in injuries like this year, they will challenge UAE again in many races.

Are there more rumours?

 

[Netserk]

Thijssen as addition for the sprints and classics.

I have not heard of that rumour nor been able to find any mention of it.

Zingle and Campenaerts have been rumoured to join the team.

 

[Offline]

Riders like Huising, Graat and van Belle i´m not sure where i should place them. Maybe someone can help?

Huising and Graat are climbers. Van Belle is probably for team Kooij instead of Dijke brothers.

 

[Statze2]

I have not heard of that rumour nor been able to find any mention of it.

Zingle and Campenaerts have been rumoured to join the team.

Now i can remember the rumour to Campenaerts that would fit my roleur typ of rider.

Thijsen/Teunissen my mistake
Sorry for the confusion.

Wielerflits talked about the Teunissen story: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/mike-teunissen-moet-visma-lease-a-bike-opnieuw-aan-zeges-helpen/

 

[Netserk]

If both Teunissen and Campenaerts join the team, and no rider leaves prematurely, then they'll only have 2 spots left on the 2025 roster.

From PCS:

#	Rider	Goes to
1	BOUWMAN Koen	?
2	GESINK Robert	retired
3	HESSMANN Michel	?
4	TRATNIK Jan	?
5	VADER Milan	?
6	VAN DIJKE Mick	?
7	VAN DIJKE Tim	?
8	VERMOTE Julien	?

Vermote is rumoured to have been extended: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/julien-vermote-krijgt-contractverlenging-bij-visma-lease-a-bike/

Tratnik and the Van Dijke twins are rumoured to join RedBull. That leaves Bouwman, Hessmann and Vader to fight for the last spot.

 

[Coffeeplanter]

If both Teunissen and Campenaerts join the team, and no rider leaves prematurely, then they'll only have 2 spots left on the 2025 roster.

From PCS:

#	Rider	Goes to
1	BOUWMAN Koen	?
2	GESINK Robert	retired
3	HESSMANN Michel	?
4	TRATNIK Jan	?
5	VADER Milan	?
6	VAN DIJKE Mick	?
7	VAN DIJKE Tim	?
8	VERMOTE Julien	?

Vermote is rumoured to have been extended: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/julien-vermote-krijgt-contractverlenging-bij-visma-lease-a-bike/

Tratnik and the Van Dijke twins are rumoured to join RedBull. That leaves Bouwman, Hessmann and Vader to fight for the last spot.

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All three are said to leave.

 

[Netserk]

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All three are said to leave.

Thanks. Tough luck for Hessmann, also too old to take a year on the U23 team. I guess he will retire then?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Hessmann was a big talent, 3rd at Avenir and from the Dev team. Curious to let him go, maybe they thought they'd spent too much social capital defending him or that it wasn't worth the trouble?

 

[Statze2]

Thanks. Tough luck for Hessmann, also too old to take a year on the U23 team. I guess he will retire then?

Don‘t think so, he is Training still Like a pro, and i think there will be some Teams that give him a contract

 

[Rob5091]

Yep, whatever voodoo they used last year, it's boomeranging back at them -

https://www.teamvismaleaseabike.com...se-a-bike-in-second-stage-of-vuelta-a-burgos/

Sepp hit the ground for the second time in this Vuelta a Burgos and that is far from ideal. In addition, we lost Ben Tulett in a crash.” Tulett's shoulder was dislocated during the crash.

 

[Statze2]

Ui Cian, another very bad ITT. And this short before his Season Highlight. He lost nearly a Minute on sepp Kuss, a Rider who is also Not good in such flat ITTs.
He didn‘t improve at Visma…

 

[Netserk]

 

[memyselfandI]

Just watched it. Very very good indeed. Ty.

 

[vwpe]

Good video. Liked Nathan at 24min mark and Vingegaard at 38:30, honesty is refreshing and nothing wrong with that.

 

[RJH]

Gloag now out with broken elbows… :-( Poor guy.

 

[RJH]

Julien Vermote is remarkable. He more than once was without WT team recently, and now even got signed for two years by Visma. Amazing

 

[AmRacer]

Did they just sign Wout for the rest of his career?

 

[proffate]

Did they just sign Wout for the rest of his career?

how does this work when 45yo wout wants to keep riding and the team are no longer interested?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

how does this work when 45yo wout wants to keep riding and the team are no longer interested?

They probably have to give him money to stop riding once he starts blocking a spot on the team. Or they have a team termination clause but I wouldn‘t sign this then if I were Wout.