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Jungels is like a God's gift to them. He's one of the strongest riders in the pack, but since it's his first shot at the Flemish classics, he's still pretty low in the pecking order and won't complain much if used early on in a tactical game plan (especially now with already a win in the bag). With his amazing TT ability, he's actually a very big threat for the other teams to let go up the road, unlike Stybar for example.

I can't wait for the upcoming classics how this plays out.
 
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tobydawq said:
RedheadDane said:
How many of their riders have never won a race?

Asgreen, Declercq, Evenepoel, Honoré, Knox, Serry.
Anyone I'm missing?

Pro-races, obviously. Sorry, Remco.
Fabio Sabatini.
He's won one UCI race. In 2005 as a 20 year old, the year before he turned pro. ;)
But I had to check. I also thought about him.
 
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tobydawq said:
Okay, but I don't count .2 races.

But that's the eternal discussion... :D
You won't give Marangoni his first ever win in his last ever race last year? ;)

Oh, both Declerq and Asgreen actually have two wins each and Honoré one (all .2 races). I guess RedheadDane doesn't count .2 races either, which makes Sabatini a legitimate addition. Serry, Knox and Evenepoel are the ones without any kind of individual pro win.
 
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Squire said:
tobydawq said:
Okay, but I don't count .2 races.

But that's the eternal discussion... :D
You won't give Marangoni his first ever win in his last ever race last year? ;)

Oh, both Declerq and Asgreen actually have two wins each and Honoré one (all .2 races). I guess RedheadDane doesn't count .2 races either, which makes Sabatini a legitimate addition. Serry, Knox and Evenepoel are the ones without any kind of individual pro win.
Nobody can do that since he won a stage in the .2 race, Giro del Friuli-Venezia-Giulia race in 2008.
 
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tobydawq said:
Squire said:
tobydawq said:
Okay, but I don't count .2 races.

But that's the eternal discussion... :D
You won't give Marangoni his first ever win in his last ever race last year? ;)

Oh, both Declerq and Asgreen actually have two wins each and Honoré one (all .2 races). I guess RedheadDane doesn't count .2 races either, which makes Sabatini a legitimate addition. Serry, Knox and Evenepoel are the ones without any kind of individual pro win.
Nobody can do that since he won a stage in the .2 race, Giro del Friuli-Venezia-Giulia race in 2008.
Touché. :lol:
 
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RedheadDane said:
Okay, then I guess I'm counting Sabatini too. After all; this entire thing started because it was mentioned that Declercq has never had a win.
Those kinds of statistics should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt when it comes from TV commentators. I remember how Liggett was going on about Contador riding his first Tour de France when he was winning in 2007.
 
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Squire said:
RedheadDane said:
Okay, then I guess I'm counting Sabatini too. After all; this entire thing started because it was mentioned that Declercq has never had a win.
Those kinds of statistics should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt when it comes from TV commentators. I remember how Liggett was going on about Contador riding his first Tour de France when he was winning in 2007.
Fortunately, Brian Holm and Thomas Bay are more knowledgeable than that guy.
 
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tobydawq said:
Squire said:
RedheadDane said:
Okay, then I guess I'm counting Sabatini too. After all; this entire thing started because it was mentioned that Declercq has never had a win.
Those kinds of statistics should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt when it comes from TV commentators. I remember how Liggett was going on about Contador riding his first Tour de France when he was winning in 2007.
Fortunately, Brian Holm and Thomas Bay are more knowledgeable than that guy.
Otoh… Holm also seemed to think that Senechal's earlier cat 2 races count.
 
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RedheadDane said:
tobydawq said:
Squire said:
RedheadDane said:
Okay, then I guess I'm counting Sabatini too. After all; this entire thing started because it was mentioned that Declercq has never had a win.
Those kinds of statistics should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt when it comes from TV commentators. I remember how Liggett was going on about Contador riding his first Tour de France when he was winning in 2007.
Fortunately, Brian Holm and Thomas Bay are more knowledgeable than that guy.
Otoh… Holm also seemed to think that Senechal's earlier cat 2 races count.
I know Lefevre counts them as victories, he also counted Keisse's Six-day wins and Viviani's wins on the track last year when he was tallying it up.
 
I have to tip my hat to Gilbert for his ride today. He is 36, in a contract year and he said multiple times that he wants to win MSR before he retires. So I figured he would at least attack at some point today. But he didn't. He rode unselfishly for his teammate who had the better legs. That speaks volumes about the team spirit at Deceuninck and also about Gilbert himself. He could've easily gone with Bonifazio (for example) and tried his luck but instead chose to pull for Alaphilippe on the Poggio. There aren't many chances left for him if he wants to get the two missing monuments but today he opted to help a teammate over his own ambitions.
 
Do you have an idea who they are going to send to the Tour / the Giro? Will they put together a very young team at the Giro and send all the old :p ones to the Tour? Or will a grown-up watch their steps in the Giro?
 
Do you have an idea who they are going to send to the Tour / the Giro? Will they put together a very young team at the Giro and send all the old :p ones to the Tour? Or will a grown-up watch their steps in the Giro?
Evenepoel, Knox and Jakobsen will go to the Giro. Bennett and Alaphilippe will go to the Tour. Those have been confirmed as far as i know. I guess it depends on who they want to send along with them. I assume they will send at least two guys specifically to support Jakobsen, and maybe a jack of all trades. Evenepoel and Knox are going for GC. I know Knox wanted to ride for himself, i assume they will let him and Remco help each other out as much as possible, without forfeiting their own chances. But they don't have a lot of experienced mountain domestiques... so i still wonder who they will send to the Tour and Giro.

The team only has few guys that can actually be of use in the mountains or hilly stages. Cattaneo, Serry, Devenyns & Jungels. And of the young guys, Bagioli, Almeida & Vansevenant. Can't imagine them sending Vansevenant to a GT already. Though he's older than Remco he's not there yet. The most likely of the young guys seems Almeida. He was very strong in Algarve and he's also the oldest of the young guns (bar Knox). I assume Jungels and Devenyns will ride the hilly classics with Alaphilippe, so it would make sense they will help Alaphilippe in the TDF, and skip the Giro. For Serry and Cattaneo, it could go either way i assume. Serry could be of use in hilly stages and for chasing a breakaway. He's a real jack of all trades domestique. Cattaneo is probably best suited to help and coach the young guys in the mountains, but on the other hand, he could also be of help for Alaphilippe. But does Alaphilippe need help? If he's going stagehunting, that would matter a lot less i assume.

I would think Asgreen, Cavagna are also guys for the TDF and the classics.
 
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