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The Denis Menchov Thread

Menchov was/is better than...

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Mar 10, 2009
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Ruby United said:
Menchov has retired! Was he really a legendary rider? Discuss...

Agghhhh, we will miss him and his great comedy. (that he provided the intertubes with)

And how is he ever comparable to any other rider? He has set the path for a new trait in a pro cyclist and all are to be compared to him.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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It irks me a bit that despite years of careful preperation Menchov never got his Tour, while Bradley-come-lately appears from the autobus and bags one almost immediately. Don't have a valid moral objection or anything, just saying.
 
Dec 18, 2012
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Maybe "better" than F.Shleck and S.Sanchez who have never won any GT, but weaker than B.Wiggins who won the biggest one of the GT.
Menchov was a pretty good rider but couldn't do a real gap on TT (like Wiggins or Indurain), who allows him to win a TDF whithout being one of the top climber. So on the Giro (and eventually the Vuelta), it was ok, but on the TDF it was too short.

Anyway, funny to see that Menchov and Leiphemer, two real "showmen" in the cycling world retiring in same time :D
 
del1962 said:
Menchov will always have question marks against him, he was from that era, I voted better than Frank, but I should have gone with no one.

Question mark?! I by question mark you mean the type of "question mark" that hangs over Klöden and did used to hang over Lance, yeah then you have a point.
 
Mar 9, 2013
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taiwan said:
It irks me a bit that despite years of careful preperation Menchov never got his Tour, while Bradley-come-lately appears from the autobus and bags one almost immediately. Don't have a valid moral objection or anything, just saying.

Why does it irk when you know he beat a doped up Di Luca, somethings wrong.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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TANK91 said:
Why does it irk when you know he beat a doped up Di Luca, somethings wrong.

Wrong forum. In this forum Di Luca, Menchov and Wiggins are all clean as a whistle ;)

But tbh I don't quite understand your point. It jusr bothers me that Menchov can be chipping away for ten years always just out of range of winning, while e.g. Wiggins can transfer from Wigan to Man U and seemingly take whatever races he wants in a couple of seasons. But I don't know about Menchov's ambitions.
 
His fall in the 2009 Giro TT was probably the most exciting thing he ever did as well as crashing uphill in the Tour. Cobbles and water on the road did not help of course but he was a real diesel, similar to Evans. Nothing flashy but always there. As for the other allegations, I will reserve judgement. I think it was time for him to retire.
 
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Giro and Vuelta winner, second in the Tour - no doubt, he was a great champion. I think he´s someone who really reached the maximum he was able to reach. Very professional rider. I think he was someone who didn´t waste even one percent.

He´ll be remembered for his GT results, and for his mentality. Very calm and silent guy, but likeable.

Unforgotten:
- his ITT crash in 2009´s Giro
- his uphill crash in the Tour 2008 (the road seemed dry and clean, so a really epic thing)
- his legendary interview, a myth on Youtube
- his "..., no?" when speaking English.

Best wishes to him. :)
 
Mar 17, 2012
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Marcus135 said:
2 Vueltas and a Giro are much better than one Tour IMO, Better than all 3 i say.

1 Vuelta (2007), right? Wasn´t the 2005 Vuelta given back to Heras? Don´t know, who can help? :confused:

Edit: Jens confirms...
 
Farewell Denis :) :)

Provided me a lot of good time and happiness but enough is enough. It was time to say goodbye to the World of professional cycling, I kinda had hopes he would finish the 2013 Tour and end his career on Champs Elysees, but it looks like his knee injury was just too much.
 
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Never really liked him, but! he won 3(2) GT's. Frank Schleck is nothing compared to him, Samuel Sanchez is I think more talented, but Menchov worked harder and won that GT's, so he is also better.
Wiggins is another strange example. Wiggins I think won more things, but when I count only GT's, then it's Menchov again who is the better one. Yes, Wiggins won the great Tour, but without a serious competitor and with one of the strongest domestique of all time. If Wiggins will win another GT in his career, then I will say he is better, but now I can't say that.
 
LaFlorecita said:
Menchov wasn't legendary but he was a good cyclist. Really got the max out of his career, don't think he was that talented. BTW Ruby United nice to see you posting again

Been off the forum for a while. Now, looking back, I don't know why:D;)