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The fight against The Man continues

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If black people are underrepresented in cycling, there is ipso facto some bias built into the system somewhere which should be fixed by the national body. It has a responsibility to serve the whole population and objectively develop the best talent.

Racism at this day in age is not a myth.
 
taiwan said:
If black people are underrepresented in cycling, there is ipso facto some bias built into the system somewhere which should be fixed by the national body. It has a responsibility to serve the whole population and objectively develop the best talent.

Racism at this day in age is not a myth.

Maybe once USA Cycling starts helping white grass roots racing then people will have a reason to complain about them not helping black grass roots racing. As it is the organization is completely useless for all colors.
 
Jun 19, 2009
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BroDeal said:
Maybe once USA Cycling starts helping white grass roots racing then people will have a reason to complain about them not helping black grass roots racing. As it is the organization is completely useless for all colors.

So at least there is a positive for USA Cycling-they're colorblind in their neglect of responsibility.
 
Feb 17, 2012
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Wow!! I don't have enough time to type the response I would like to, so I will leave it at this....I am 52 years old and I am tired of this crap.
 
Jan 13, 2010
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Bahati's suspension was for walking onto the course after the crash and throwing his glasses at the rider who took him down. That was a very obvious display of poor sportsmanship, but the suspension was fair, Bahati apologized and served the suspension, and moved on.

The rider who took him down should have been suspended, too. That display of poor sportsmanship and disregard for the safety of other riders was not obvious without a replay. It was understandable but not fair that this rider was not suspended.

The original post on cvcycling fails to mention the cause of the suspension. The author eventually acknowledges this.

There are a lot of apparently unrelated assertions, facts, and straw men flailing around in the original post. They are tied together by the allegation that USA Cycling has it in for black people. Well, what else could it be?

It could be anything. I know of a lot of white people who got hung out to dry by USA Cycling. I know of a white riders who were rightfully punished for their infractions, too. Major Taylor did get beaten down by societal and institutional racism, but that was 90 years ago. Is it really the same now? I don't know why Nelson Vails doesn't get support from USA Cycling. Maybe we should ask Vails what he thinks before flying off the handle.

I'm saying that I know for a fact that racism doesn't exist in USA Cycling. I do know that sports federations often have a "circle the wagons" mentality when they're challenged, and NASCAR is the most egregious example; they often do what is easiest to explain rather than what's logical, fair or just; they have a "follow the herd" mentality; they often don't coordinate their intentions with their efforts or their efforts with their efforts; they sometimes don't connect their words with their intentions; and they don't acknowledge that anything is wrong until a David Walsh or a Travis Tygart puts together a compelling case that holds up to scrutiny. Lawyers, journalists, and historians are good at that (more often than not). They're professionals.

Could USA Cycling enforce the rules better? Sure. Could they get the doping coaches out of their organization? Certainly. Could they do better outreach to the underserved? Why the hell not? Do these errors and omissions constitute institutional racism? I don't know, let's try to look a little more closely. I'm not a lawyer or a journalist, but sure I know a crappy argument when it bites me on the *** this hard.
 
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taiwan said:
If black people are underrepresented in cycling, there is ipso facto some bias built into the system somewhere which should be fixed by the national body. It has a responsibility to serve the whole population and objectively develop the best talent.

Irrefutable logic.

There was a crash. The white guy caused it, which was not apparent without a video replay. The black guy did something stupid after it, which was blatantly obvious to everyone there. One got punished and one did not.