Now he does.He doesn’t believe that.
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Now he does.He doesn’t believe that.
Vingegaard is a way stronger TT-er than Rasmussen though. It's not like he'll need 3 minutesThe boy sure can climb ....
Needs to put Pog to the sword tomorrow to get an advantage before the TT
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Here it is! The interview with the images of the day.
Notice that Wout is far more pumped up than Jonas that looks almost shocked.
I don't get the impression he is particularly well-liked in this forum, despite the overabundance of Danes on here.
Personally, I've never found him especially charismatic, but he does have a nice rags to riches stories.
Good point. I suspect that if he ends up beating Pogacar, we'll see a more conservative Pogi next year.Peaking just for the Tour and being several notches below that level for the rest of the season is probably playing its part in it. Nothing he did prior to the last couple of stages of the Dauphine suggested he could become the best climber in the world in July. That used to be the reason why Contador was so much more popular than Andy Schleck here during their rivalry some dozen or so years ago.
Even Nibali, a major fan favourite here, got significant criticism in the forum when he stuck with the single superpeak strategy after getting his Tour win. Its not easy to become a fan of a rider if you see his real abilities only for couple of days per year. Today was a fantastic performance, worth every plaudit it gets, but if he keeps only showing that ability in few selected days in July, then among cycling fans he remains respected rather than loved.
Yes, I was surprised to see him only get 5 votes on the pre-tour poll given his performance last year... Vlasov got 6.I don't get the impression he is particularly well-liked in this forum, despite the overabundance of Danes on here.
Personally, I've never found him especially charismatic, but he does have a nice rags to riches stories.
He probably didn't make himself too many friends with his doltish crashes at Basque Country.I don't get the impression he is particularly well-liked in this forum, despite the overabundance of Danes on here.
Personally, I've never found him especially charismatic, but he does have a nice rags to riches stories.
Vingegaard rode a decent spring apart from the Ardennes. He will never dominate the spring because thats not the rider that he is, but he should definitely be able to win some races here and there. Certainly much better throughout the year than fx. Nibali was in that 14-19 where he almost never did anything outside of his few races.Peaking just for the Tour and being several notches below that level for the rest of the season is probably playing its part in it. Nothing he did prior to the last couple of stages of the Dauphine suggested he could become the best climber in the world in July. That used to be the reason why Contador was so much more popular than Andy Schleck here during their rivalry some dozen or so years ago.
Even Nibali, a major fan favourite here, got significant criticism in the forum when he stuck with the single superpeak strategy after getting his Tour win. Its not easy to become a fan of a rider if you see his real abilities only for couple of days per year. Today was a fantastic performance, worth every plaudit it gets, but if he keeps only showing that ability in few selected days in July, then among cycling fans he remains respected rather than loved.
Vingegaard rode a decent spring apart from the Ardennes. He will never dominate the spring because thats not the rider that he is, but he should definitely be able to win some races here and there. Certainly much better throughout the year than fx. Nibali was in that 14-19 where he almost never did anything outside of his few races.
Its a lot easier for Rogic, Pogacar etc. to dominate the spring simply because they are much more all-round. Jonas is a GT-rider first and foremost, and doesn't have the same ability to dominate cat 1 climbs in Paris-Nice or Tirreno-Adriatico. Roglic and Pogacar can win 1 weeks with their eyes closed since they are explosive, excellent in time trials etc.
Agree, Quintana is a great comparison. But lets not forget that he finished 2nd in Pais Vasco, 2nd in Tirreno, 2nd in Dauphine etc. and hes still young. Basically his first season as a co-captain. Theres plenty of time, but my point just is that its not as natural for Jonas as some other types to win in the spring.He is certainly best suited for GT-s, in that there's no doubt. But the same applied to Quintana during his peak years, when climbing in high mountains and exceptional recovery were his biggest weapons . Despite that he amassed an excellent palmares in shorter stage races, his supreme climbing ability manifesting itself throughout the season.
Vingegaard, like Quintana before him will likely never be a factor in one day races, but given the abilities he is showing in climbing and TT-ing for the second Tour running, many of the lesser stage races are well within his abilities. As such, being a solid but unspectacular placement rider in those seems to me more a matter of choice rather than of a lack of ability.
His legs were speaking all the words todayPoor guy doesn't have any action in his thread, after winning a tour stage and taking yellow. Let's show him some love!
Big big big applause to Roglic for his effort to help Jonas win the stage and get the yellow jersey. He did everything he could and knew he would blow his own chances on the way. It was excellent work from a big rider.Like I said before in another thread, Roglic is not as good as Jonas at least in a 3 week GC and he never will be again. I think we can establish that fact looking at last year's TDF and this year's, so far.
But Roglic should get a lot of respect for laying himself flat down and give the captain's role to Jonas. And smashing in the door with his vicious attacks. Very big respect.
I like him a lot - he is so down to earth and his girlfriend seems to be a big help for him to realice his dreams according to cycling. I also like him being human and keep focus on the family. The other day a journalist asked what he dreamed of = being the best father to his daughter and the best husbond. Of course the journalist excepted another answer - but that just shows something about Jonas and the way he is thinking.I don't get the impression he is particularly well-liked in this forum, despite the overabundance of Danes on here.
Personally, I've never found him especially charismatic, but he does have a nice rags to riches stories.
Nothing is settled yet and everything can change in the days to come. For now Roglic gave up his chances in the tour of 2022, but he is still a good racer and will come back in another race. For me it seemed like Roglic already before the tour and at the teampresentation acknowleged Jonas as the strongest rider - but that doesn't have to be enough to win, you also need to have the mindset to do it and Roglic have the mindset to do these things.Healthy Jonas against injured Roglič. This will still have to be settled in the future. Healthy Jonas against (hopefully) healthy Pogačar. This is still to be determined.
Lets not forget TDF 2020.
When I saw th video of him apologizing to Vlasov after the stage for causing the crash it was not a big deal for me.He probably didn't make himself too many friends with his doltish crashes at Basque Country.
That said it was mainly doltish, no viciousness.
The fact Vingegaard worked in a fish factory to fill his time and stay down-to-earth actually sounds like a likable pal!
By the way, the new thread title is worse than the old one.
Edit: if you need to bring in Rasmussen, you could also refer to him riding a gutsy race yesterday with something like "Vingegaard - no longer a chicken" for instance.
Vingegaard - finally knows the color of the leaders jerseyBy the way, the new thread title is worse than the old one.
Edit: if you need to bring in Rasmussen, you could also refer to him riding a gutsy race yesterday with something like "Vingegaard - no longer a chicken" for instance.
Oh that makes it MUCH better. Not!Vingegaard is a Rasmussen.
Oh that makes it MUCH better. Not!
He's a better Rasmussen than the Rasmussen, who actually goes by Rasmussen.
Vinnie-I smell something fishy.By the way, the new thread title is worse than the old one.
Edit: if you need to bring in Rasmussen, you could also refer to him riding a gutsy race yesterday with something like "Vingegaard - no longer a chicken" for instance.