The Lesser Known Women's Road Racing Thread 2023

[RedheadDane]

I certainly wouldn't mind commentary-less or with local announcers (where available), but I know some people that would. People who've been following women's cycling for many years have dealt with some strange commentary before, mark my words. I think the US race where we essentially got the audio of the announcer yelling what was happening to the crowd at ear-splitting volume or the Finnish stage race where the only camera was on the bike following the back of the péloton so we just had to take the commentator's word for what was happening - except it was in Finnish - take the cake.

Early feed with no/race-local commentating for us nerds, and then on regular TV/streaming devices with commentators people can actually understand.
I mean, I think it's no secret that I would probably watch a race in Klingon if that was what was available.

("was what was"... how is that even (part of) a sentence? English, you're drunk!)

 

[Libertine Seguros]

("was what was"... how is that even (part of) a sentence? English, you're drunk!)

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[pmcg76]

The Vans dominating again, guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it does get boring as they are the best an pretty much every race they wish to really challenge in.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

There's unfortunately not any live pictures form the Thüringen Ladies Tour, but there is livetiming:

Rund um Schmölln

www.cyclingonline.info

A pretty strong group consisting of Deignan, Fahlin, Henderson, Demey, Ryan, Lippert, Koppenburg, Teruel, Hammes and Pieters are in front. Considering that almost every team has a rider in that group, it could stay away.

GCN will show highlights from the race, and MDR will do the same, and I don't think their stream is geo-restricted:

Livesport im MDR: Alle Sport-Livestreams von "Sport im Osten" | MDR.DE

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www.mdr.de

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It seems to be Friederike Stern and not Koppenburg, who's in the break. They had a lead of a minute at one point, but Movistar have now cut it down to 20 seconds at the start of the third and last 27 km lap.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

They still have more than 30 seconds with 15 km to go.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1397204635589431297

View: https://twitter.com/LottoLadiesTour/status/1397204635589431297

 

[Samu Cuenca]

40 seconds with 5 km left. They should be on the final ascent of the Wasserturm now.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Norsgaard took it in front of Brand, Kopecky, Henderson, Pieters, Cromwell and Lippert. The rest lost some seconds during the final.

Wiebes beat birthday girl Cecchini in what was left of the peloton, 1:02 behind the front group.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Why did I double down on a top 3 without an SD Worx rider in it?!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I should definitely have picked one of the Trek riders.

The highlight broadcast was good. Luckily the cobbles in Schmölln weren't wet, cause otherwise there could have been some crashes.
Schmölln looks like a pretty little city, but it's probably not as beautiful as Gotha, which I have visited once.

 

[RedheadDane]

1	WIEBES Lorena	Team DSM	25	30	3:24:12
2	NORSGAARD Emma	Movistar Team	20	18	0:01
3	MAJERUS Christine	SD Worx	15	12	,,
4	RYAN Alexis	Canyon SRAM Racing	12	7	0:02
5	KOPECKY Lotte	Belgium	10	4	,,
6	HENDERSON Anna	Team Jumbo-Visma Women	8	3	0:03
7	BRAND Lucinda	Trek-Segafredo Women	6	2	,,
8	ANDERSEN Susanne	Team DSM	4	1	,,
9	VERHULST Gladys	Team Arkéa			0:04
10	COPPONI Clara	FDJ Nouvelle Aquitaine Futuroscope			,,

 

[Samu Cuenca]

1	WIEBES Lorena	Team DSM	25	30	3:24:12
2	NORSGAARD Emma	Movistar Team	20	18	0:01
3	MAJERUS Christine	SD Worx	15	12	,,
4	RYAN Alexis	Canyon SRAM Racing	12	7	0:02
5	KOPECKY Lotte	Belgium	10	4	,,
6	HENDERSON Anna	Team Jumbo-Visma Women	8	3	0:03
7	BRAND Lucinda	Trek-Segafredo Women	6	2	,,
8	ANDERSEN Susanne	Team DSM	4	1	,,
9	VERHULST Gladys	Team Arkéa			0:04
10	COPPONI Clara	FDJ Nouvelle Aquitaine Futuroscope			,,

I'm not sure the gaps are accurate, but there were definitely space between the riders.
Impressive sprint by Wiebes (I don't know why she was wearing red, though. Edit: The youth jersey is red). Norsgaard also lost an intermediate sprint for second to Lippert earlier on.

Highlights at 19:15: https://www.mdr.de/video/livestreams/mdr-plus/sport-eventlivestreamdreiww-120.html

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1397591302124998656

View: https://twitter.com/LottoLadiesTour/status/1397591302124998656

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The gaps have been neutralised, so only Wiebes got a second on the peloton.
The highlights broadcast has been moved to 19:40.

 

[Bonimenier]

What are requirements for gaps under 3 seconds not counting in a mass sprint?

I can see why it's not the case here, but just wondering in general.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

What are requirements for gaps under 3 seconds not counting in a mass sprint?

I can see why it's not the case here, but just wondering in general.

https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/rules-and-regulations/part-ii-road/arrivees-sprint-massif-09.05.2019-e.pdf

In this instance there was a crash inside the final kilometer, where Tiffany Cromwell ended up on the wrong side of a barrier, but luckily she landed on grass, while her teammate Neve Bradbury and/or Ella Harris hit the tarmac, but they appear to be unhurt.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Brand, Lippert and Wild (who is the only surviver from the early breakaway) have 20 seconds with 10 km left.

Edit: They are already caught again.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So only Wild was caught, and Brand and Lippert have increased their lead to around 30 seconds.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Brand dropped Lippert before the line and held on to win in front of Norsgaard and Kopecky.

01	Lucinda Brand		Trek-Segafredo	03:18:52​	25​
02	Emma Norsgaard		Movistar Team Women	+ 02​	20​
03	Lotte Kopecky		Belgium	+ 02​	15​
04	Amy Pieters		Team SD Worx	+ 02​	12​
05	Emilia Fahlin		FDJ Nouvelle-Aquitaine Futuroscope	+ 02​	10​
06	Lisa Brennauer		Ceratizit-WNT Pro Cycling Team	+ 02​	8​
07	Kristen Faulkner		Team TIBCO-Silicon Valley Bank	+ 02​	6​
08	Liane Lippert		Team DSM	+ 02​	4​
09	Lizzie Deignan		Trek-Segafredo	+ 02​	​
10	Tiffany Cromwell		CANYON//SRAM Racing	+ 02​

 

[RedheadDane]

So... just went to check Norsgaard's page on FirstCycling, and... why is she tilting?

 

[BlueRoads]

I'm really clueless when it comes to women's cycling. It irritates me so much that the categories I have for male riders don't work at all for female cyclists.

 

[BlueRoads]

So... just went to check Norsgaard's page on FirstCycling, and... why is she tilting?

I don't know, to look friendlier?
She's really, really pretty by the way.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So... just went to check Norsgaard's page on FirstCycling, and... why is she tilting?

They are clearly using the same picture as PCS, so I don't know why they have done that. They haven't done it with any of her teammates's pictures.

I'm really clueless when it comes to women's cycling. It irritates me so much that the categories I have for male riders don't work at all for female cyclists.

If you can both sprint and climb a bit, you're pretty much always in with a chance of winning a women's race, unless it includes a mountain or too many hills, cause then vdB and vV will probably beat you.

 

[RedheadDane]

If you can both sprint and climb a bit, you're pretty much always in with a chance of winning a women's race, unless it includes a mountain or too many hills, cause then vdB and vV will probably beat you.

In which case, the only solution is to be either of those.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

In which case, the only solution is to be either of those.

Sure, but unless PCS start cloning them not everyone can be.

 

[RedheadDane]

Sure, but unless PCS start cloning them not everyone can be.

PCS cloning them won't actuallly make everyone them, it'll just make more of them.