The Missing of Doping Tests (aka... pulling a Rasmussen)

[ElChingon]

With more listed today might as well put them in one thread? No?

 

[ElChingon]

First Yoann Offredo has been notified of missing three tests in 2011.

Ref: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/offredo-informed-of-missed-doping-controls

 

[ElChingon]

Now CN reports (through Gazzeta of course) that Mark Cavendish missed one test last year. Only one so no ruling needed (right?) till three strikes?

Not the name I thought we'd see here in the Clinic.

Ref: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/did-cavendish-miss-an-out-of-competition-dope-test

 

[The Hitch]

Im interested to know how many out of competition tests do cyclists have.

How does that compare to other sports.

Obviously if people only get 1 a year and they miss it its different but if Offredo missed 3, how many out of competition tests did he have?

Im interested because if Cav's alleged missed test gets out, the haters of cycling might say that thats another cyclist doping or some **** like that.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Now CN reports (through Gazzeta of course) that Mark Cavendish missed one test last year. Only one so no ruling needed (right?) till three strikes?

Just want to point out that the first Cavendish report went up about six and a half hours ago, also well before the Offredo story.

And no, no problem with one violation.

Susan

 

[Frosty]

Cavendish replies

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-admits-to-missed-drug-test-in-2011

Says he was with a film crew and it was an administrative error.

 

[ElChingon]

Cavendish replies

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-admits-to-missed-drug-test-in-2011

Says he was with a film crew and it was an administrative error.

Excuses are like .... will they give everyone else an excuse waiver?

 

[ElChingon]

Im interested to know how many out of competition tests do cyclists have.

How does that compare to other sports.

Obviously if people only get 1 a year and they miss it its different but if Offredo missed 3, how many out of competition tests did he have?

Im interested because if Cav's alleged missed test gets out, the haters of cycling might say that thats another cyclist doping or some **** like that.

One must wonder who reported it to Gazzetta, must of been someone within UCI/WADA. The Italians going after more big fish to fry? If not tenderize.

 

[will10]

Having one missed test announced to the press does absolutely no good for the integrity of the sport.

 

[samerics]

The rule is three, he missed one, mistake. Give him a break until he does it again! He is vocal against doping, he is not under suspicion, what's the problem?

 

[Richeypen]

Excuses are like .... will they give everyone else an excuse waiver?

What waiver? He isnt facing punishment because its a first offence. Same for everybody.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Excuses are like .... will they give everyone else an excuse waiver?

He doesn't need an excuse. One missed test is not a doping violation, for the very good reason that with the best will in the world sometimes an athlete will screw up, forget to update their whereabouts, head off somewhere else for some reason and get delayed, etc. Three missed tests within the allotted time period is a doping violation, as that distinguished between a pattern of missing tests and an accidentally missed test.

Cavendish has a right to be seriously annoyed about a single missed test being revealed. It is absolutely no indication of doping, yet it will damage his public reputation.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Excuses are like .... will they give everyone else an excuse waiver?

Cav missed a test, nothing more. At least he has accepted it was his mistake and that he knows that its an important part of ant-doping and that it is his responsibility:

"It's part of the job and it's my job to make sure I don't miss another."

Contrast that to Offerdo:

"I am an enthusiastic defender of the anti-doping fight. I wonder, is cycling?"

If you are an enthusiastic defender of anti-doping then fill out your whereabouts form in time or accept that you made a mistake (twice!).

 

[BroDeal]

Cavendish has a right to be seriously annoyed about a single missed test being revealed. It is absolutely no indication of doping, yet it will damage his public reputation.

He already did that himself when he got chummy with Armstrong.

 

[Caruut]

French world champ track sprinter Bauge also retrospectively banned for missed test violations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jan/06/gregory-bauge-stripped-world-title

 

[will10]

He doesn't need an excuse. One missed test is not a doping violation, for the very good reason that with the best will in the world sometimes an athlete will screw up, forget to update their whereabouts, head off somewhere else for some reason and get delayed, etc. Three missed tests within the allotted time period is a doping violation, as that distinguished between a pattern of missing tests and an accidentally missed test.

Cavendish has a right to be seriously annoyed about a single missed test being revealed. It is absolutely no indication of doping, yet it will damage his public reputation.

Spot on. We're led to believe that a lot of riders have one or even two missed tests on their records, yet Cav's is the only one that makes the headlines? Not really on.

 

[ElChingon]

To everyone so far.

All the previous riders missing doping test are equally non-Dopers? None have tested positive, right?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Interesting question. Who else has been suspended for or charged with whereabouts violations? Alex Rasmussen, Michael Rasmussen, Jeanne Longo are the only ones who spring to my mind. None of them has tested positive, as far as I know.

Susan

 

[The Hitch]

One must wonder who reported it to Gazzetta, must of been someone within UCI/WADA. The Italians going after more big fish to fry? If not tenderize.

My guess is Rojas

 

[Quixote]

I hate thinking the worst here because I appreciate what Cav has already accomplished in his young career. However, observing tests and controls is part of the "job". He seems to be very good at all other aspects of the job, so why have a brainfart when it comes to the one that could lead to suspicious conclusions. His "story" of why he missed the test needs to be thoroughly investigated for his sake.

 

[JRanton]

Im interested to know how many out of competition tests do cyclists have.

How does that compare to other sports.

Obviously if people only get 1 a year and they miss it its different but if Offredo missed 3, how many out of competition tests did he have?

Im interested because if Cav's alleged missed test gets out, the haters of cycling might say that thats another cyclist doping or some **** like that.

It's already out and there are articles about it in the general British media.

Sigh.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I'd be annoyed if I were Cav about this coming out.

A single missed test whilst regretable, is not an indication of anything doping related. Who here has not missed/been late for a meeting at work (or socially) in the last 12 months due to unforseen circumstances that cropped up ?

2 in the 18 month window is good grounds for the team boss to deliver a ship-up talk, this is part of your job, do it and do it right.

 

[Polyarmour]

I hate thinking the worst here because I appreciate what Cav has already accomplished in his young career. However, observing tests and controls is part of the "job". He seems to be very good at all other aspects of the job, so why have a brainfart when it comes to the one that could lead to suspicious conclusions. His "story" of why he missed the test needs to be thoroughly investigated for his sake.

60 tests per year and he missed one. You think that's grounds for a Spanish Inquisition? You've never missed a meeting at work, been late for work, got a date wrong?

 

[Quixote]

60 tests per year and he missed one. You think that's grounds for a Spanish Inquisition? You've never missed a meeting at work, been late for work, got a date wrong?

I repeat that I am a Cav fan and I hope that this concludes in his favor. However, this is not like showing up to work late, it's more like showing up to work with no pants. A Spanish Inquisition is not required (at least no racks), but let's, at the minimum, check out his story and see if it makes floats.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

I repeat that I am a Cav fan and I hope that this concludes in his favor. However, this is not like showing up to work late, it's more like showing up to work with no pants. A Spanish Inquisition is not required (at least no racks), but let's, at the minimum, check out his story and see if it makes floats.

Who is supposed to check it out? The UCI? Sky? The BBC, who he claims to have been with?

I would be very curious to know how many riders have one or two violations. It is probably a lot more than we might expect.

Susan