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Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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TT will be difficult, expect more from the road race. I think he’ll win two medals but no gold
Also think it will be difficult vs likes of Tarling and Ganna duo to prep.
I would personally be impressed if Remco gets a medal from the RR especially after the Tour I expect he will be a little tired but do he get a medal there amaziiing.

Also the course imo would be impressive for me if he walked away with a medal from the RR. Needless to say that Van der poel and Remco are what im looking forward to watch the most. I just wouldnt hold anything against Remco is what im saying duo to the Tour but at the same time be even more impressed if he got a medal for the same reason. Van der Poel has no excuses. Same applies for Wva and the boys.
 
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And I truly believe he will take strides and only get better and better from here on in GT too.

He both got a taste and proved something in GT aswell and at 24 I truly believe he will just grow from here on this and improve and I think he def got more room for improvements than others to capitulate on. Looking forward to it.
With him is not just a question of age, it is that he started very late cycling, he can improve, specially technically. He woulkd have been the main rival for Van der Poel at Glasgow, with the same route without corners. With the energy he wasted in every corner of every descent of this Tour he could have been close to Pogacar. He needed to sprint on everyone. He is the most aerodinamic rider...he just have to take advantage in an attack of that.
 
With him is not just a question of age, it is that he started very late cycling, he can improve, specially technically. He woulkd have been the main rival for Van der Poel at Glasgow, with the same route without corners. With the energy he wasted in every corner of every descent of this Tour he could have been close to Pogacar. He needed to sprint on everyone. He is the most aerodinamic rider...he just have to take advantage in an attack of that.
I agree he's got a lot to make up for in bike handling, clearly a limiter for him. However, I can't get with the bolded.

I accept that "close" is subjective. It's a good question, makes you think what he really could have saved, time-wise. We know he lost around 40 seconds just in the final TT descent. Devastating, really. Seemingly so easy to improve vs training capacity. Wasted energy chasing back on Galibier? Several other times, really. Did it show later a little? Not being relaxed, descending on every col? Maybe, I don't know. I think we all know having to chase back is not nuthin'. Unless you're in top shape, those efforts tax you. But he really was fit, so hard to say. I would guess it cost him 2.5 minutes overall. If that's right, it would be 7 or so minutes . That doesn't seem close, but it darn well seems significant. Maybe it's more, probably not much less. Would love to hear what others think.

I'd rather try and grab back 2.5 minutes by being a great bike handler than trying to get 2.5 minutes more fit. Seems way more efficient and way more fun. :)
 
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I'm not taking anything away for UAE and Pogacar. I'm just saying everything went perfect, including the external factors they can't control.
That pretty much sums up how every Tour winner has had things work out. Lemond's defeat of Fignon was out of left field as his team was thought to be thin and he was actually coming back from the Dead. Alot more dramatic than probably any other career altering accident.
But UAE did perform very well. So did Soudal and I'll be first to say my pre race doubts were answered. Remco maintained the maturity we've seen and his team came together when necessary.
 
Wrong he lost it mostly because of jetlag.

His cornering in the BC ITT 22 and Vuelta ITT 22 was perfection.

JV's cornering in Combloux last year was also perfect yet he lost 40s in the descent sunday.

Maybe you should stop thinking you're much smarter than REv's coaches while all you make are simplistic arguments.
I was talking about the WCC'22. Which he most certainly lost in the corners. He could have won it without jetlag, but there was no scenario where he could resolve that issue (jetlag). There were however plenty of scenario's where the issue of his cornering could have been resolved/improved enough to beat the great Tobias Foss. The Vuelta '22 TT wasn't that technical IIRC. I have no idea what you think that proves.

I don't know who you are or how many times you have taken corners at above 80km per hour, but i can tell you i have a couple of tens of thousands behind my belt. Maybe i know a little bit more about cornering than you think so maybe it's best to leave the petty personal attacks for what they are.

Evenepoel himself says he did his best numbers (up til then) in a TT and admits he could have won on a less technical parcours: https://www.wielerflits.be/nieuws/brons-voor-remco-evenepoel-qua-waarden-mijn-beste-tijdrit-ooit/

And here is one of many who said the same thing: "Evenepoel lost the WCC in the corners".
 
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You really don't need to belittle the magitude of this Giro-Tour double. The competition at the Tour was among the strongest ever: the 2nd and 3rd guy would've demolished the field in absurd fashion without the other two present and they both showed great climbing/time-trialing level.
The benchmark is triple crown..2 Gran Tours is extraordinary but that is not the standard. Pogacar has elected to not contest Olympic races..it's only logical w a 20-22 year old supporting cast to race the Vuelta..form is absolutely out of this world and weeks between. Roglic in for a disappointment
 
I read somebody mentioning Roglic won't do Vuelta?
Yikes!!what do the offices want? Redbull will sell regardless but if a road cycling commercial connection is the objective.. The Wout helmets are OK but you need prolonged exposure!!
Looked at Willier website.. They know what they are doing!! And some Italian goob that said lets put more money into Cav campaign is looking like a F-ing genius!!
 
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So, couple of days after the Tour already, but I'd still wish to express how proud I am of Remco.

He was always a special rider, a generational talent in his own regard. There's no denying. But I've been a vast believer when it comes to grand tours as well, and I'm so glad to see he proved the sceptics to be wrong. The '22 Vuelta wasn't a fluke, but rather a prelude.

Will Evenepoel ever take that yellow jersey home? No idea. The opposition is freaky, and the battle will be hard. But if he manages to improve, which should still be possible, who knows... Either way, for the first time in my life as a thirty-something year old, I got a feeling that Belgium is allowed to have high hopes for a Tour de France overall victory. And that's already worth a lot. So thank you Remco, keep up the good work!

And good luck at the Olympics. Get that (gold) medal!
 
I can't see him beating Tarling and Ganna in the ITT, and I can't see him beating at least MvdP in the road race. Both simply due to preparation. He had to go hard 3 weeks, MvdP sandbagged 3 weeks. And for the ITT, the other two have this as main season target even (with Ganna also going for it on the track).
 
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I can't see him beating Tarling and Ganna in the ITT, and I can't see him beating at least MvdP in the road race. Both simply due to preparation. He had to go hard 3 weeks, MvdP sandbagged 3 weeks. And for the ITT, the other two have this as main season target even (with Ganna also going for it on the track).
Indeed it's going to be very difficult. But in the RR, if he has a gap of 10m, he might be able to ride away. Last year in the WC, Pogacar closed most of the gaps to Evenepoel, while MVDP just sat on the right wheel. Now MVDP has to close it himself. So the others only have to look at each other for a bit too long, and he's gone.
 
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And he still doubts himself. Saying he finished behind the two best riders in the world. He is the second best rider in the world.
Yeah easy to forget he is still 24 and gotten a lot of *** sometimes rightfully question aswell.

That part is a given now without a question he is. Maybe not a given before the Tour but sure is now.

But for me if I can say the most exciting part about it all is I truly believe he has more room to grow and take steps in various different areas even compared to other, with time he can even lose more kg without power if done right which others cant. And the fact he got a taste and just started basically his GT journey now aswell (FR I mean on this level) logically there is zero things saying he wont grow a lot and fast now.
Excited think in 2-3 years some people will be surprised.