I dunno, maybe I’m off here but I would argue that, thanks to Contador, Froome, and Roglic, the Vuelta has become quite prestigious and coveted. The average Vuelta win in the past 15 years I would say >>> the average Giro win.
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That’s true, but Vingegaard also had a worse crash
He will, but that doesn't change the metric. He might win the double under auspicious circumstances or he is just better. It's all in the cards..
Yea, since they changed the calendar in 95. This pushed the Giro for years to a second thought, so it's good that the race has come to the fore again, despite Vegni and his incompetance. Spain is more sexy now.
Still, remco was more injured than pog 2023 (abd sick at dauphine). We saw how that worked out for pog
You live in a bubble if you think there isn’t a fight between an in-form Pogacar and in-form Evenepoel in Liege
Wanted to make sure the reference with “living in a bubble” was caught since it was used here
Nah... who goes into the season and says: my main aim is winning the Vuelta? Right, nobody. Roglic won it 4 times, and all of those times it wasn't his main goal of the season.
Correct, the Vuelta is a race where riders who failed during either the Giro or the Tour, for whatever reason, come to salvage their season. If you win it it's cool. If you don't, cool as well. Only two types of riders can be bothered to peak: neopros and Spanish riders of PCT level.
What about 3 Vuelta (out of his 4) plus his extra two GT podiums?
Would he give away those for a single TdF?
In that scenario he'd have 1 TdF, 1 Giro, 1 Vuelta, wins, and no other gt podiums.
Primož Roglič - Wikipedia
Because Remco is turning 25 at the beginning of 2024 while Rogla isn't getting any younger: he turned 35 a few days ago and will be 35 and 7 months by the time the first GT of the year (the Giro) ends
Many assume that given the fact that Roglic turned to cycling unusually late, and wasn't doing a long distance sport before either, he might have less 'wear&tear' than many at his age.
But, still, not everybody is Geraint Thomas (and let's put aside Horner's weird Vuelta win at 41-42, for the moment).
Who is the youngest winner of Tour de France?
Who are the youngest and oldest winner of Tour de France? The oldest winner is at age . The youngest winner is at age .
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I live in Italy.
It isn't.
Perhaps till 88-93 or so it was close. But since then it dropped value year after year, and especially in the 2020s it's nowhere close to the TdF anymore.
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Maybe it depends on if he wins another one to be sole Vuelta record holder. Would you trade those wins for a single TDF win?What about 3 Vuelta (out of his 4) plus his extra two GT podiums?
Would he give away those for a single TdF?
In that scenario he'd have 1 TdF, 1 Giro, 1 Vuelta, wins, and no other gt podiums.
Primož Roglič - Wikipedia
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According to Belgian journalist Michel Wuyts, Bora-Red Bull had a contract of 10 million per year ready to sign for Evenepoel. Currently he earns 5M with bonus.
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Wuyts onthult: dit monstercontract mét extra's kon Evenepoel tekenen bij Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe
Remco Evenepoel rijdt ook in 2025 bij Soudal Quick-Step, ook al lag een contract bij Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe klaar. Michel Wuyts onthult nu wat er op tafel lag voor Evenepoel.
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No chance he will definitely ride the tour in 25, unless he crashes and won't get back in shape in time. Otherwise Tour will be his major goal for the season.
I would also rather have him do Giro-Vuelta-WC, but Patrick Lefevere already indicated that he’ll definitely ride the Tour. He might do Giro-Tour-WC though, but I don’t expect much from him at the WC then.
You must consider the history and calander placement. The Vuelta used to be raced in April, when the Ardennes classics were full-on and the fact that the Bigs did a full monument session, from Coppi to Merckx, Hinault, Lemond etc. Indurain, like Delgado, was an old school Spaniard GT rider. Then, when they moved the Vuelta to late August, with specializion having come to the fore, the GT guys mostly had to pivot to a Tour-Vuelta scenario. The Giro became a colorful and nostalgic legacy that mainly concerned Italians, from Pantani to Simone, Garzzeli and il Piccolo Principe. Now everybody remembers what a grand Giro actually means.Because Remco is turning 25 at the beginning of 2024 while Rogla isn't getting any younger: he turned 35 a few days ago and will be 35 and 7 months by the time the first GT of the year (the Giro) ends
Many assume that given the fact that Roglic turned to cycling unusually late, and wasn't doing a long distance sport before either, he might have less 'wear&tear' than many at his age.
But, still, not everybody is Geraint Thomas (and let's put aside Horner's weird Vuelta win at 41-42, for the moment).
View: https://x.com/StatsOnCycling/status/1794602557970800796Who is the youngest winner of Tour de France?
Who are the youngest and oldest winner of Tour de France? The oldest winner is at age . The youngest winner is at age .
I live in Italy.
It isn't.
Perhaps till 88-93 or so it was close. But since then it dropped value year after year, and especially in the 2020s it's nowhere close to the TdF anymore.
No way would Rogla trade any of the GTs, stage races, monument ... wins for a Tour title. Said that he is not done with the Tour yet. Rogla will win Tour too, it's inevitable.
As for Remco not taking 10 millions per year and to sign for Red Bull. Interesting.
As for Remco not taking 10 millions per year and to sign for Red Bull. Interesting.
That’s true, TDF will obviously be a hole in Roglic’s palmares, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t one of the best GT riders of his generation. He’ll be remembered for that.
He is old so he wants to buy the only rider able and available to give him big wins in the future. Jonas and Tadej have long contracts.
If Bora doesn't buy Remco, they aren't competing for anything in the future. WVA and Jonas will not leave Visma, MVP has a long contract with Alpecin, Tadej the same with UAE. So only Remco is available and they are paying big money (in fact they are overpaying) desperately to have him. In my opinion, a smart move from a rich team.
For Remco this is good too, he would be better surrounded in Bora.
What does overpaying mean in a sport where there is more and more money going around? How much was the latest new contract of Pogi?
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