Because it's not? It's not the same thing to go out in Denmark than in Spain with a x4 cases/population ratio. Governments take different decisions for different situations.I don't really know about that. He is as much rule-breaking as Dennis, but is irresponsible really a term we can use here?
I mean, why would it be reckless and irresponsible to ride your bike in Monaco but not in Denmark? It's the same act. It's just legal in one country, not in another.
I can safely suggest this is known by people who've posted in this thread - Will add that Dennis won't be the only sports person who is suffering during the lockdown - On the same day last week two Aussie Rule footballers were busted for drink driving.
Oh, I see. SorryI was responding to RedheadDane asking why Dennis doesn't come home if cabin fever is so bad for him
he was riding in Monaco and France https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/philippe-gilbert-fined-for-training-outdoors-during-coronavirus-lockdown-in-monaco/He has homes in both Monaco and Belgium if I remember correctly. Do we know where he was riding outside?
Agree 100%. This is my opinion on Dennis's silly Twitter outburst and deciding to break the lockdown rules in his place of residence.People without mental issues are struggling with the world right now, so someone like RD with known mental issues will really struggle to handle it...………………..
I know that the logistics would be difficult and risky, but if I was a pro looking to get outside on my bike I would be setting up camp where it was legal.
Spanish hospitals have been beyond full capacity throughout the past weeks. It is not just to avoid the spread, since if you crash while training and require assistance it'll be another blow to the health system.But I still think banning even solo riding to combat coronavirus spread is over the top and unnecessary to control it. There is likely more risk of hurting someone in your car than catching or passing the virus while riding solo. IMO these draconian over the top restrictions are what precipitated Dennis's outburst.
There's yet more proof that I'm losing it because I read the story you linked, but clearly didn't remember what was in either the title or story!he was riding in Monaco and France https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/philippe-gilbert-fined-for-training-outdoors-during-coronavirus-lockdown-in-monaco/
No he's not, though. He wasn't explicitly drawing public attention to his behavior and he wasn't acting like he had every right to do what he did, as if he'd been treated unfairly by the circumstances or as if people should be free to do as they please given the situation. Like i said in a previous post, what these guys do gets picked up by thousands if not millions of people worldwide. This doesn't stop with possibly getting infected or possibly infecting someone else. There is a much greater issue here. Setting an example, inciting others with your behavior.Ha, well that kind of ruins it as he can't train outside anyway. So he's less dumb than Dennis because he didn't broadcast his rule break to the world, but he's equally reckless and irresponsible.
Okay I should have considered Spanish hospital capacity. But what kind of "blow" to the health system from potential cyclist injuries are we really talking about? It would be a very, very, very small percentage of total beds. Life has to go on surely ? I still think its over the top.Spanish hospitals have been beyond full capacity throughout the past weeks. It is not just to avoid the spread, since if you crash while training and require assistance it'll be another blow to the health system.
Once the situation starts to get better, solo riding (for your own health, not referring to pro training) will be permitted. In fact, it is actually advised for essential/allowed workers to get to their offices on a bike since it lowers the risk of transmission when compared to using public transport or even on foot. However, if you are just training, do it at home with a smart trainer until it is the right moment to do so.
It doesnt' really matter if you understand - or agree with - the rules. You just have to follow the rules of wherever you happen to reside. On the flip-side that also means that someone residing in a country with full lockdown can't complain about someone residing in a country that doesn't have full lockdown going for a ride.I don't get it either why people are completely locked away in Spain and Italy. I personally think they are doing the wrong thing.
Two reasons for the Spanish new case countOkay I should have considered Spanish hospital capacity. But what kind of "blow" to the health system from potential cyclist injuries are we really talking about? It would be a very, very, very small percentage of total beds. Life has to go on surely ? I still think its over the top.
Can someone also explain why Spain's new case count remains stubbornly high? There is no statistically significant fall in the daily new case rate for the month of April to date. This despite the draconian restrictions. Makes no sense. I'm glad I live in Australia. I can still ride my bike on public roads solo and our stats are as good as any country right now with restrictions that don't include exercise. Riding solo is legal exercise under our current lockdown.
I am actually just very surprised that you are not allowed to train outside in other countries. In Austria that was always allowed (not in groups) and to be honest I really see no problem, when someone is alone on his bike...
It's up to those countries to make the consideration and assess their situation. In Belgium you can ride your bike or go for a walk/run (social distancing rules are enforced), you can halt for a short rest, but you can not sit on a bench or in a park while doing that. Only necessary trips (store, work,...) and all companies have to let their employees work from home unless the job warrants it. Most stores are closed except bakeries, supermarkets, and now again DIY stores.In Bavaria your aren't allowed to ride around in your car without any reason.
For health reason it is allowed to cycle, run and walk around, because they want people to stay healthy (mentally and physically). Since today it is allowed to walk and train outside with a person which isn't living in your house.
I don't get it either why people are completely locked away in Spain and Italy. I personally think they are doing the wrong thing.
Which is exactly why Dennis' behavior is unacceptable and different from that of say, Gilbert.Hm, well, nothing to do with Rohan Dennis, but the thing is not everyone has a smart trainer at home. There are lots of people confined to really, really tight spaces with people in their households they can't stand / don't get along with. I think cycling is not really important in this, but to not be able to go out, go jogging or walking, do some exercise, before you go nuts. I'm thinking about a lot of families, teenagers in precarious living conditions.