Things in sports (other than drugs) that need to result in bans

[Libertine Seguros]

Obviously, testing positive or extreme violence result in people being thrown out of sporting events. But there are some other crimes equally heinous that go completely unpunished, sometimes even encouraged.

Wouldn't it be nice to eradicate all your pet hates from sports? Here are a few things that need to be eradicated, and if we provide bans to those guilty of the offences, hopefully they can be removed:
- skinsuits in road races - dress for the occasion, fool.
- first names on football shirts - you are not the only person in the world called Xaví or Raúl, you poser. When we get as far as "Kevin" and "Vincent" this has gone too far.
- football commentators using "there was contact!" as a justification for a player whose leg brushed another player doing a triple salto.
- football players who lay down injured until the opposition player is booked, and are then absolutely fine. This should be a red card offence.
- the QB kneel. Just run it up the gut, you boredom merchants.
- tarmac runoff at motor racing circuits. If you aren't going to punish the driver for going off the circuit, then don't bother putting the lines on the circuit there in the first place.
- pulling over to let your teammate past. Win the race on merit or don't win the race, it's a simple conundrum.

 

[Christian]

Purposefully provoking a yellow card so that you will miss the next game that has no importance, but will be certain to play the big game after that. Real Madrid players did that once in Champions League IIRC, just ridiculous. That should be sanctioned with a 2 game ban instead of 1 game

 

[ElChingon]

Sports with the word Ultimate in them and yet they have rules!?!? How have rules ever been a factor in something ultimate?

Time outs: they're pro's yet they need a time out? No if you need a time out, you're not a pro.

 

[Nastyy]

- first names on football shirts - you are not the only person in the world called Xaví or Raúl, you poser. When we get as far as "Kevin" and "Vincent" this has gone too far.
- football players who lay down injured until the opposition player is booked, and are then absolutely fine. This should be a red card offence.

You really must hate Brazil and Spain when it comes to football then

 

[Libertine Seguros]

You really must hate Brazil and Spain when it comes to football then

Today's Athletic team: 11 surnames on shirts. I approve. Mallorca: 2 first names (Víctor and Álvaro) and a nickname ("Chico"). Carlos Tévez has Tévez on his shirts in club football, but "Carlos" on his back in Argentina, though Argentina only put names on shirts full stop if they have to (which I approve of too).

Edit: Athletic's sub goalkeeper Raúl just got a yellow card from the bench. I hope it was for wearing his first name on his shirt.

 

[RedheadDane]

Purposefully provoking a yellow card so that you will miss the next game that has no importance, but will be certain to play the big game after that. Real Madrid players did that once in Champions League IIRC, just ridiculous. That should be sanctioned with a 2 game ban instead of 1 game

Or change the rules so instead of the ban being during The next game, whatever it happens to be it would be during the next important game.

 

[Christian]

Time outs: they're pro's yet they need a time out? No if you need a time out, you're not a pro.

It really helps in some sports such as ping pong for example ... as a former ping pong player I can vouch for that. Granted, I never made it pro. But a big part of the game is a mindgame and so a time out often helps when it is going bad for you. It can break your opponent's rhythm and gives you the chance compose yourself

 

[El Pistolero]

Pat Mcquad.

 

[ElChingon]

It really helps in some sports such as ping pong for example ... as a former ping pong player I can vouch for that. Granted, I never made it pro. But a big part of the game is a mindgame and so a time out often helps when it is going bad for you. It can break your opponent's rhythm and gives you the chance compose yourself

Exactly, that's called cheating! If you lose time in a bike race you can't call time out so you can catch your breath/recover from the last effort. If you're down and out then you lost. Time-outs don't prove you won only that you were able to smell defeat and stop the loss. Not a mark of a true champion.

 

[jamiephillips]

Motorised doping. Having a small engine concealed in your bottom bracket.

 

[craig1985]

Obviously, testing positive or extreme violence result in people being thrown out of sporting events. But there are some other crimes equally heinous that go completely unpunished, sometimes even encouraged.

Wouldn't it be nice to eradicate all your pet hates from sports? Here are a few things that need to be eradicated, and if we provide bans to those guilty of the offences, hopefully they can be removed:
- skinsuits in road races - dress for the occasion, fool.
- first names on football shirts - you are not the only person in the world called Xaví or Raúl, you poser. When we get as far as "Kevin" and "Vincent" this has gone too far.
- football commentators using "there was contact!" as a justification for a player whose leg brushed another player doing a triple salto.
- football players who lay down injured until the opposition player is booked, and are then absolutely fine. This should be a red card offence.
- the QB kneel. Just run it up the gut, you boredom merchants.
- tarmac runoff at motor racing circuits. If you aren't going to punish the driver for going off the circuit, then don't bother putting the lines on the circuit there in the first place.
- pulling over to let your teammate past. Win the race on merit or don't win the race, it's a simple conundrum.

You know I have always wondered why that was the case, when you do get amongst Spanish footballers, I mean Xavi is never called Xavi Hernández during a game and is always referred to his first name and I've always wondered that is the case? I know that's also common amongst Portuguese speaking footballers where AFAIK they are referred to either by a nickname or their first name since their name is so long. Nobody ever has called Neymar by his full name of Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior.

 

[Christian]

Exactly, that's called cheating! If you lose time in a bike race you can't call time out so you can catch your breath/recover from the last effort. If you're down and out then you lost. Time-outs don't prove you won only that you were able to smell defeat and stop the loss. Not a mark of a true champion.

I don't know, I think it really depends on the sport. As I said in ping pong a time out is not really about catching your breath from an effort, it's about trying to get your concentration back on track. So it's not physical but mental recuperation. Endurance doesn't play such a big role as in cycling or running.

So IMO if you are able to win after a time-out, you were able to pick yourself up, figure out what you were doing wrong, turn the game around when your back's against the wall and defeat your opponent by superiour skill. As I said it's a mindgame so often times it doesn't need much to undermine your opponent's confidence. Say you were 4 points down, then if you are able to make the first 2 after the time-out, your opponent will already start to get nervous and maybe make some mistakes, thus bringing you back in the game

 

[craig1985]

Wearing scarfs:

 

[Libertine Seguros]

You know I have always wondered why that was the case, when you do get amongst Spanish footballers, I mean Xavi is never called Xavi Hernández during a game and is always referred to his first name and I've always wondered that is the case? I know that's also common amongst Portuguese speaking footballers where AFAIK they are referred to either by a nickname or their first name since their name is so long. Nobody ever has called Neymar by his full name of Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior.

In Portugal it's not actually as common as you might think. In the Lusophone countries it's more typically nicknames. Brazilians have usually had this with nicknames (Pele, Jairzinho, Ronaldinho), though there are others with first names (Ronaldo, Sócrates). Portugal has examples of both (Nani is a nickname, Eusebio is a first name). It's a terrible plague at the moment, it's always been there to some extent but it's really caught on recently. Some people get called by their full names at all times (Xabi Alonso, Javi Martínez). Others put stupid names on their shirt but the commentators point blank refuse to use them (Javier Hernández with "Chicharito" at Manchester United). But they're all happy enough to call Xavi Hernández Xavi, perfectly happy to call Raúl González Raúl, unquestioningly. As a rarity, it's maybe a bit of a novelty and not too bad. But it seems every team in La Liga has at least a couple of these posers now. Sometimes with stupidly common names as well, like "Juan Pablo" at Sporting Gijón. Some teams have absolutely tons of them - Racing Santander have "Christian", "Osmar", "Toño", "Álvaro", "Francis", "Bernardo" and "Adrián". It's a bit much. It looks crazy with "Kevin" at Real Mallorca, and even more ridiculous when people not actually from Hispanophone or Lusophone countries do it ("Grégory" at Sporting Gijón).

 

[jamiephillips]

Over use of the whip in horse racing.

 

[The Hitch]

Diving in football is the thing that I really hate. Especially the way fans will defend their players to the death. Like liverpool fans who still think gerrard has never dived.

No honor whatsoever.

Give them bans if you find out afterwards they were cheating.

Also swearing at referees or inciting hate against them after the game.

And any team whose fans send death threats to referees needs to be made to miss champions league for next 3 years / next 2 int competitions if they its a nat team.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Players wearing cooling 'bras' when playing AFL. not a good look.

 

[The Hitch]

Challenging in tennis when your opponent has the point won, and hence trying to cheat your opponent on a technicality.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=tennis&id=3998514

For those who didnt see it, Murray was about 4 m off court and 2 m Ljubicic had a smash about 30cm from the net. But the ball went well out, the umpire called out, so Ljubicic caught the ball instead.

Murray, seeing his chance to cheat Ljubicic out of a key point (game point), decided to challenge, on the basis that Ljubicic hadnt smashed the ball hence the point would have to be replayed from scratch if the challenge was succesful.

Hawkeye then made a collosal error and Ljubicic lost the game.

Disgraceful behavior.

 

[Mambo95]

Challenging in tennis when your opponent has the point won, and hence trying to cheat your opponent on a technicality.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=tennis&id=3998514

For those who didnt see it, Murray was about 4 m off court and 2 m Ljubicic had a smash about 30cm from the net. But the ball went well out, the umpire called out, so Ljubicic caught the ball instead.

Murray, seeing his chance to cheat Ljubicic out of a key point (game point), decided to challenge, on the basis that Ljubicic hadnt smashed the ball hence the point would have to be replayed from scratch if the challenge was succesful.

Hawkeye then made a collosal error and Ljubicic lost the game.

Disgraceful behavior.

I don't understand. How is that cheating? He has every right to challenge any call and he can't possibly know that the system would go wrong.

 

[daveinzambia]

Have to say the single thing I hate more than anything else in sport is the blatant cheating and play acting in football. I love football but to watch players trying to get others booked and making a meal of fouls is just wrong.

cannot think of other sports where it would be tolerated.

and for the person that complained about Ultimate, it does have rules just not refs and relies on people being sporting enough to call fouls themselves. Peer pressure is used to eradicate anyone taking advantage of this. would much rather see that these so called professionals trying their hardest to cheat the ref

 

[The Hitch]

I don't understand. How is that cheating? He has every right to challenge any call and he can't possibly know that the system would go wrong.

Its got nothing to do with the hawkeye mistake but with challenging in the first place.

The point was lost.

SUppose the ball was in, or Murray suspects it was in. Ljubicic has a put away into an empty court.

But by challenging he is hoping to force Ljubicic to replay a won point from scratch.

You often see other players concede points when the referee makes a wrong call, admiting that the ball was in, telling their opponents that a ball looked in to them so they should challenge.

Im not saying he needs to behave like a gentleman, but in a psychological sport, forcing an opponent to replay a won point is a bit of a low blow.

 

[Mambo95]

The point was lost.

SUppose the ball was in, or Murray suspects it was in. Ljubicic has a put away into an empty court.

But by challenging he is hoping to force Ljubicic to replay a won point from scratch.

If we suppose the ball is in, the surely Murray challenging it can't be 'disgraceful'. Correcting bad calls is the whole point of the challenge system.

And the point isn't won until Ljubicic actually plays the shot (plenty of sportsmen make almost impossible screw-ups). It's not Murray's fault that he didn't.

This incident seems to be all about the faulty machine, not anything Murray did.

Let's reserve the word 'cheat' for actual cheats.

 

[craig1985]

In Portugal it's not actually as common as you might think. In the Lusophone countries it's more typically nicknames. Brazilians have usually had this with nicknames (Pele, Jairzinho, Ronaldinho), though there are others with first names (Ronaldo, Sócrates). Portugal has examples of both (Nani is a nickname, Eusebio is a first name). It's a terrible plague at the moment, it's always been there to some extent but it's really caught on recently. Some people get called by their full names at all times (Xabi Alonso, Javi Martínez). Others put stupid names on their shirt but the commentators point blank refuse to use them (Javier Hernández with "Chicharito" at Manchester United). But they're all happy enough to call Xavi Hernández Xavi, perfectly happy to call Raúl González Raúl, unquestioningly. As a rarity, it's maybe a bit of a novelty and not too bad. But it seems every team in La Liga has at least a couple of these posers now. Sometimes with stupidly common names as well, like "Juan Pablo" at Sporting Gijón. Some teams have absolutely tons of them - Racing Santander have "Christian", "Osmar", "Toño", "Álvaro", "Francis", "Bernardo" and "Adrián". It's a bit much. It looks crazy with "Kevin" at Real Mallorca, and even more ridiculous when people not actually from Hispanophone or Lusophone countries do it ("Grégory" at Sporting Gijón).

Lusophone, that's to describe Portuguese speaks of Black African descent, right?

As for player names in La Liga, look no further to Mexican Primera División side Jaguares de Chiapas who decided to replace the players name on their jersey with their twitter handle.

 

[The Hitch]

If we suppose the ball is in, the surely Murray challenging it can't be 'disgraceful'. Correcting bad calls is the whole point of the challenge system.

And the point isn't won until Ljubicic actually plays the shot (plenty of sportsmen make almost impossible screw-ups). It's not Murray's fault that he didn't.

This incident seems to be all about the faulty machine, not anything Murray did.

Let's reserve the word 'cheat' for actual cheats.

Doesnt matter if the ball is in or out, Ljubicic has the point won. The guy is 2 m and standing 30cm from the court. Its more likely that an alien spaceship comes to block the ball than that he misses.

Murray knows exactly what hes doing when he challenges. Trying **** off a surprisingly tough opponent with a low blow.

Its like the lawyer who gets a obviously guilty murderer off on a technicality.
To you its all good because its legal, but to me, there is nothing admirable in either act.

 

[ElChingon]

Players wearing cooling 'bras' when playing AFL. not a good look.

Along the same lines, players who take their jersey's off during the game, unless its womans soccer. Maybe the only womans soccer game I ever saw with a female roomate who kept saying how good it was I was in and out of the TV room doing something esle and of course was in when that famous shot of the American woman scored a goal and took her jersey off (yea sports bra underneath) but I cheered so loud she just face palmed as she knew her promoting of the sport took a nose dive in one goal and celebration.