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Time lapsed between tests and results

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I'm absolutely amazed that in India (not exactly known for its cutting edge medical resources) during the Commonwealth Games they have been able to turnaround doping test results in under a week.

Can someone shed any light on why in cycling it can take 3 months (or more) from the date of the test for the result to be announced?

I don't understand why there is such disparity... especially when it's positives from things like Clenbuterol, which I understand isn't all that difficult to test for.
 
thehog said:
Maybe because they have a billion people who are paid less than a dollar a day in wages.

Yeah, but that didn't help them get the site ready before the 11th hour? If anything you would expect it to take longer.

My suspicion is that the service is provided by an efficient dope testing provider external to the country and subcontracted for the games. Anyone have a lead on who is providing the doping control services?
 
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TubularBills said:
Yeah, but that didn't help them get the site ready before the 11th hour? If anything you would expect it to take longer.

My suspicion is that the service is provided by an efficient dope testing provider external to the country and subcontracted for the games. Anyone have a lead on who is providing the doping control services?


There's a WADA-accredited lab in New Delhi.


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TubularBills said:
Excellent. So I guess when you pull the UCI out of the mix you can test A samples in days and B samples in a week. Further proof of McQuack's quackery and subterfuge.

Ok - as much as I have zero faith in McQuaid and certain sections of the UCI it is not their doing for the apparent delay.

Simply because of the added number of controls done on cycling with the introduction of the Bio Passport it has added some time on when the tests are completed as most of the original samples are sent to a few European laboratories.

Regardless - the average time for an A sample is just one month.
 
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Ok - as much as I have zero faith in McQuaid and certain sections of the UCI it is not their doing for the apparent delay.

Simply because of the added number of controls done on cycling with the introduction of the Bio Passport it has added some time on when the tests are completed as most of the original samples are sent to a few European laboratories.

Regardless - the average time for an A sample is just one month.

Good point, and not considered during my previous post, any thoughts on more robust and emerging testing protocols rendering the biological passport unnecessary or redundant?
 

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TubularBills said:
Good point, and not considered during my previous post, any thoughts on more robust and emerging testing protocols rendering the biological passport unnecessary or redundant?

Slightly OT - but IMO no.
I think the Bio Passport is a great tool - however at present it is not used to its best effect and is being used arbitrarily.

Even with a new test - athletes that want to dope will still try and find a way or new product to circumvent the testing.
So the Bio Passport would be the first indication of what methods are being used so as to enable better targeting of both the athletes and what new products may be being utilized.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Ok - as much as I have zero faith in McQuaid and certain sections of the UCI it is not their doing for the apparent delay.

Simply because of the added number of controls done on cycling with the introduction of the Bio Passport it has added some time on when the tests are completed as most of the original samples are sent to a few European laboratories.

Regardless - the average time for an A sample is just one month.

Agreed that the BP makes things a little more complicated... but straight up urine tests should not be taking so long. 1-2 months for a clenbuterol test is way excessive.

Sure, cycling does have much more testing, but is it really that much more than over the course of a whole Olympic/Commonwealth Games?
 
Seems the sophistication of the doping programmes in the Commonwealth Games is quite deplorable. They're caught like crippled prey. Too easy, almost.
Were they thinking India would not be able to run proper tests? Or did they just want their 2 minutes of fame? .