Tirreno Adriatico route revealed

[MatParker1711]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tirreno-adriatico-2016-route-unveiled/

The 2016 race begins in Lido di Camaiore with a 22.7km team time trial, on the Tuscan Tyrrhenian coast and then heads south towards Grosseto for stages finishes in Pomerance and Montalto di Castro. It then heads inland, crossing the Apennines via Foligno, with a tough mountain finish in Monte San Vicino. The final climb to the finish is 13km long and tops out at 1208m. It will no doubt shake up the overall classification. The 2016 Tirreno-Adriatico again ends in San Benedetto del Tronto on the Adriatic coast, with a 10.1km individual time trial.

Should be a good giro preview, GC will come down to the San Vicino and a fight between the trains of Astana, Sky and Movistar.

 

[Velolover2]

Worst route since it's sprinting race days.

No wonder the big names are preferring Paris-Nice this year.

 

[togo95]

 

[Velolover2]

Is stage 2 even hard enough to be won by a climber?

 

[Eshnar]

Re:

Is stage 2 even hard enough to be won by a climber?

More of a puncheur.

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

Is stage 2 even hard enough to be won by a climber?

More of a puncheur.

Do you have any profile of the final climb? It looks like something for Kwiatkowski or a similar type of rider.

 

[Eshnar]

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Is stage 2 even hard enough to be won by a climber?

More of a puncheur.

Do you have any profile of the final climb? It looks like something for Kwiatkowski or a similar type of rider.

I have no profile, sorry. But I know the climb is very irregular, with short steep walls and false flats. So it definitely suits a classic rider more than any climber.

 

[Brullnux]

Could it create gaps though between the GC contenders.

Stage 6 looks like a 5% rise or so to Cepagati, and it's such a disappointing stage considering the wealth of oppurtuntities there. Eshnar, as the resident expert of Italy, how hard is the climb before Foligno?

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Valverde ftw.

 

[Arredondo]

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

 

[Eshnar]

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Could it create gaps though between the GC contenders.

Stage 6 looks like a 5% rise or so to Cepagati, and it's such a disappointing stage considering the wealth of oppurtuntities there. Eshnar, as the resident expert of Italy, how hard is the climb before Foligno?

If it's the road I think it is, around 2.5 kms at 8%

 

[Velolover2]

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Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

Could it create gaps though between the GC contenders.

Stage 6 looks like a 5% rise or so to Cepagati, and it's such a disappointing stage considering the wealth of oppurtuntities there. Eshnar, as the resident expert of Italy, how hard is the climb before Foligno?

If it's the road I think it is, around 2.5 kms at 8%

Do you think that heavy rain and lots of attacking could create gaps like that stage with Nibali, Sagan and Purito in 2013 or is it not hard enough?

It looks like a stage for someone like Matthews.

 

[Arredondo]

Re: Re:

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

I see it.

Perhaps Nibali if he's 2013 and before form?

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

I see it.

Perhaps Nibali if he's 2013 and before form?

Bala is my personal choice with Kwiatkowski as strong second. But I wouldn't count out Purito if they are racing stage 2 and 4 as hard classics but he need quite a gap before the TT. Katusha's TTT is also going to cause him problems.

There is also Pinot, Landa, Peraud, Pozzovivo, Dan Martin, Mollema, Chaves, Van Garderen and Uran.

Nibali is often of very questionable quality in most week-long races. His form in 2013 is of course an exception to the rule. But he must be the pre-favorite if he is in good shape.

 

[staubsauger]

Re: Re:

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

I see it.

Perhaps Nibali if he's 2013 and before form?

Bala is my personal choice with Kwiatkowski as strong second. But I wouldn't count out Purito if they are racing stage 2 and 4 as hard classics but he need quite a gap before the TT. Katusha's TTT is also going to cause him problems.

There is also Pinot, Landa, Peraud, Pozzovivo, Dan Martin, Mollema, Chaves, Van Garderen and Uran.

Nibali is often of very questionable quality in most week-long races. His form in 2013 is of course an exception to the rule. But he must be the pre-favorite if he is in good shape.

Ho good uses Segafredo to be in ttt's? Mollema increased this personal tt ability quite well. Maybe a dark horse on this course?

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

I see it.

Perhaps Nibali if he's 2013 and before form?

Bala is my personal choice with Kwiatkowski as strong second. But I wouldn't count out Purito if they are racing stage 2 and 4 as hard classics but he need quite a gap before the TT. Katusha's TTT is also going to cause him problems.

There is also Pinot, Landa, Peraud, Pozzovivo, Dan Martin, Mollema, Chaves, Van Garderen and Uran.

Nibali is often of very questionable quality in most week-long races. His form in 2013 is of course an exception to the rule. But he must be the pre-favorite if he is in good shape.

Mate you're forgetting every year before he dedicated to the Tour. He's win it twice. Also, Kwiat can't climb, he will be destroyed on the San Vicino. Nibali is targeting this race as his main early season target, and he wants to be in good shape for Milano Sanremo so I truly think he'll be good. Also, something which doesn't seem to change depending on his form is time trialling: last year he beat Contador in one, and narrowly lost out on the other, despite being in much worse form.

Valverde has the advantage one Stage 2, but so does Purito. Stage 6 I'm unsure about; I think Nibali is a better climber than Valverde. Stage 5 depends on so many variables, too many. The TTT shouldn't create too big gaps between big teams, but it will put pay to smaller teams' chances.

 

[damian13ster]

Re: Re:

Froome could win this easily.

I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

He is riding PN which is more Tour-like this year. Same with Porte and Contador.

There is no clear favorite for T-A.

I see it.

Perhaps Nibali if he's 2013 and before form?

Bala is my personal choice with Kwiatkowski as strong second. But I wouldn't count out Purito if they are racing stage 2 and 4 as hard classics but he need quite a gap before the TT. Katusha's TTT is also going to cause him problems.

There is also Pinot, Landa, Peraud, Pozzovivo, Dan Martin, Mollema, Chaves, Van Garderen and Uran.

Nibali is often of very questionable quality in most week-long races. His form in 2013 is of course an exception to the rule. But he must be the pre-favorite if he is in good shape.

Mate you're forgetting every year before he dedicated to the Tour. He's win it twice. Also, Kwiat can't climb, he will be destroyed on the San Vicino. Nibali is targeting this race as his main early season target, and he wants to be in good shape for Milano Sanremo so I truly think he'll be good. Also, something which doesn't seem to change depending on his form is time trialling: last year he beat Contador in one, and narrowly lost out on the other, despite being in much worse form.

Valverde has the advantage one Stage 2, but so does Purito. Stage 6 I'm unsure about; I think Nibali is a better climber than Valverde. Stage 5 depends on so many variables, too many. The TTT shouldn't create too big gaps between big teams, but it will put pay to smaller teams' chances.

Kwiatkowski can climb in a first mountain stage of the race (especially if its not multiple climbs). He is bad only in stage races with multiple MTFs.
With good preparation he and Valverde are the favorites

 

[GdaG]

Sky can win this if they ride for Kw. TTT and final ITT as well as stage 2 can enable him to gain time. Question is whether he can survive the queen stage. He did in 2013 when he had no experience at OPQS. This year at Sky he should have no problem with a long climb under 7%. Only problem will be whether Sky ride for Landa.

 

[Arredondo]

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Don't you guys think Valverde will not be in a really good shape? Otherwise he doesn't have a chance in the Giro anymore. Bala wants to be good in Flanders, ardennes classiscs and wants to fight for the win in the Giro.

We have seen it's not possible to be in super shape for 3 months, even for Valverde. I won't be surprised if he just rides Tirreno as preparation and work for Amador, who could be a dark horse for the podium.

 

[staubsauger]

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Don't you guys think Valverde will not be in a really good shape? Otherwise he doesn't have a chance in the Giro anymore. Bala wants to be good in Flanders, ardennes classiscs and wants to fight for the win in the Giro.

We have seen it's not possible to be in super shape for 3 months, even for Valverde. I won't be surprised if he just rides Tirreno as preparation and work for Amador, who could be a dark horse for the podium.

I fear he only arrives at the Giro with his "usual" Tour shape. So not this year's shape. He simply ain't got enough love for the corsa rosa.

Hopefully I'm totally wrong of course!

 

[Velolover2]

Mate you're forgetting every year before he dedicated to the Tour. He's win it twice. Also, Kwiat can't climb, he will be destroyed on the San Vicino. Nibali is targeting this race as his main early season target, and he wants to be in good shape for Milano Sanremo so I truly think he'll be good. Also, something which doesn't seem to change depending on his form is time trialling: last year he beat Contador in one, and narrowly lost out on the other, despite being in much worse form.

Valverde has the advantage one Stage 2, but so does Purito. Stage 6 I'm unsure about; I think Nibali is a better climber than Valverde. Stage 5 depends on so many variables, too many. The TTT shouldn't create too big gaps between big teams, but it will put pay to smaller teams' chances.

As long as there is only one MTF in the race, Kwai should be fine. He has been 2nd in Paris-Nice and Pais Vasco before. They might attack with Landa on the earlier slopes of the climb as a part of their tactic.

For Nibali, I'm not really sure. But you're right that he tends to be really good in that race. But If stage 4 had been stage 5 and and the other way around, we would have seen a Nibali in attack-mode on a stage like that.

The climbs of Trevi and Monte Falco are harder than they look. A good preparation for Milano-Sanremo.

 

[hfer07]

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Kwiatkowski can climb in a first mountain stage of the race (especially if its not multiple climbs). He is bad only in stage races with multiple MTFs.
With good preparation he and Valverde are the favorites

Taylor made for Kwiat- even for Sagan

 

[fauniera]

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I rather would have liked a muro stage. Montelupone has been too long

This. What a crappy route.

 

[Eshnar]

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Do you think that heavy rain and lots of attacking could create gaps like that stage with Nibali, Sagan and Purito in 2013 or is it not hard enough?

I guess it can happen... but most likely not. Especially with a proper MTF the following day.