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Tour 2018 stage 20: St P-S-Nivelle - Espelette 31km ITT

Stage 20 ITT Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle - Espelette 31 km

The riders roll down the ramp and climb the first 4.2 kilometres at 3.2% with its steepest section of (800 metres at) 6.1% shortly after the start. Following a rolling section and a drop the road goes up again. A punchy stretch of 400 metres at 4% appears at kilometre 12 before the route continues as a undulating uphill until kilometre 16.2.

A gentle plunge of 2 kilometres runs to an irregular 2.7 kilometres climb with some flat sections and its steepest ramps at 8%. Following another rolling descent (5 kilometres) the riders tackle the toughest climb at kilometre 26.5. The first metres of the Côte de Pinodieta go up at a mild 4% before the true action begins. In the next 800 metres the climb is averaging 10.5% with its steepest ramp at 21%. The top is 3 kilometres from the finish in Espelette, which is almost all on descent, although the last 500 metres of the race rise at 3%.

The 31 kilometres length of the test means that the Tour de France features even less individual time trialling than last year, again beating the record for the lowest number of individual time trial kilometres in the race’s history.

The first rider leaves the ramp at 12:00 and the arrival of the last one is expected around 17:13 – both local times.

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Like I said in the Thomas thread it will be amazing if Tom and Roglic got within 10 seconds of Thomas to make Paris very interesting.

On who wins it honestly could be either of those 3 or a suprise but Landa and Zakarin will move up in GC over Crush Weak and Quintana.
 
Until yesterday I thaught that Thomas was going to be the winner here. Maybe Tom. But after seeing yesterday I am convinced that Roglic and Thomas will fight it out. Tom will lose his second place.
 
The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there. With Quintana's injury I would expect him to lose 9th to Zakarin. However, my question is, is the injury bad enough that Jungles can make up 5 and a half minutes on Quintana to drop him out of the top 10? Top 3 should be interesting. I think Froome finishes 4th unless he crashes or just totally collapses or something craze.
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Like I said in the Thomas thread it will be amazing if Tom and Roglic got within 10 seconds of Thomas to make Paris very interesting.

On who wins it honestly could be either of those 3 or a suprise but Landa and Zakarin will move up in GC over Crush Weak and Quintana.
It would be pretty fun if we saw some GC action on the last stage to Paris, but I think that no matter the time difference, we wouldn't see Dumoulin, Roglic or anyone else attack on the last stage.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
SHAD0W93 said:
Like I said in the Thomas thread it will be amazing if Tom and Roglic got within 10 seconds of Thomas to make Paris very interesting.

On who wins it honestly could be either of those 3 or a suprise but Landa and Zakarin will move up in GC over Crush Weak and Quintana.
It would be pretty fun if we saw some GC action on the last stage to Paris, but I think that no matter the time difference, we wouldn't see Dumoulin, Roglic or anyone else attack on the last stage.

If it's very close and riders don't pay attention, some splits may change positions. Like Kelderman moving ahead of Contador (for 4th place) in last year's Vuelta.
 
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Koronin said:
The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there. With Quintana's injury I would expect him to lose 9th to Zakarin. However, my question is, is the injury bad enough that Jungles can make up 5 and a half minutes on Quintana to drop him out of the top 10? Top 3 should be interesting. I think Froome finishes 4th unless he crashes or just totally collapses or something craze.

Steven K gives the impression that the diesel is working fine and I think he will do a good TT like he has in the past. I think Roglic gets his chance to win the TT, I think Froome will stay fourth but the main interest will be the battle for second. Somehow I don't see Roglic closing that gap on Dumoulin but it could be close. Froome tired noticeably in the final week and Dumoulin also looks tired. Thomas won't take risks and can afford to drop a minute or more to Dumoulin and still win comfortably.
 
Don't really care about the stage since I believe Froomey will lose quite a bit to both Rogla and Tom.

But I have a message for the Tour: since the best TTers win the race no matter the sh*t you throw at them can we just go back to having a couple of monster TTs in the route like it used to be? I want to see these guys fight each other on a 50/60 km TT.
 
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Koronin said:
The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there.
There should be no contest there, Steven Kruijswijk is a better time triallist.

I'll keep an eye on Latour's performance, a top-5 would be huge, a top-10 ok-ish.
 
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SafeBet said:
Don't really care about the stage since I believe Froomey will lose quite a bit to both Rogla and Tom.

But I have a message for the Tour: since the best TTers win the race no matter the sh*t you throw at them can we just go back to having a couple of monster TTs in the route like it used to be? I want to see these guys fight each other on a 50/60 km TT.
Yes, that would be awesome!
 
Robert5091 said:
The 31 kilometres length of the test means that the Tour de France features even less individual time trialling than last year, again beating the record for the lowest number of individual time trial kilometres in the race’s history.

2015 had one 13.8km ITT, less than half of this year's total.

The 28km TTT that year was also shorter than this year's 35km.
 
Leinster said:
Robert5091 said:
The 31 kilometres length of the test means that the Tour de France features even less individual time trialling than last year, again beating the record for the lowest number of individual time trial kilometres in the race’s history.

2015 had one 13.8km ITT, less than half of this year's total.

The 28km TTT that year was also shorter than this year's 35km.
It should also be notes that the first time trial in the Tour was in 1934.
 
Well, I grew up when time trials of one 80+km ITT and a 30+km clean MTT in same race was more or less standard.
However, I like this format of a short and quite technical ITT, requiring skills more than just pure power watt, aiming for a complete rider as the winner.
As various weather forecasts suggests it will be a bit of wet roads for early starters, drying out for the classement favourites.
I'll go for Primož Roglič
Nota bene: Longest ITT in Le Tour was in 1947 from Vannes to Saint-Brieuc: 139km!
 
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SafeBet said:
Don't really care about the stage since I believe Froomey will lose quite a bit to both Rogla and Tom.

But I have a message for the Tour: since the best TTers win the race no matter the sh*t you throw at them can we just go back to having a couple of monster TTs in the route like it used to be? I want to see these guys fight each other on a 50/60 km TT.
That could be great. Maybe the French finally will see Bardet aint winning the Tour so we can get back to at least a respectable amount like 60 km or something.
 
Leinster said:
Robert5091 said:
The 31 kilometres length of the test means that the Tour de France features even less individual time trialling than last year, again beating the record for the lowest number of individual time trial kilometres in the race’s history.

2015 had one 13.8km ITT, less than half of this year's total.

The 28km TTT that year was also shorter than this year's 35km.

Correct! That's the last time I get stuff from that "cut and paste" shop ;)
 
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Valv.Piti said:
SafeBet said:
Don't really care about the stage since I believe Froomey will lose quite a bit to both Rogla and Tom.

But I have a message for the Tour: since the best TTers win the race no matter the sh*t you throw at them can we just go back to having a couple of monster TTs in the route like it used to be? I want to see these guys fight each other on a 50/60 km TT.
That could be great. Maybe the French finally will see Bardet aint winning the Tour so we can get back to at least a respectable amount like 60 km or something.
Really I rather finally see well a well designed and planned route and actual mountains before stage 10, but if it's gonna be 4 TT'ers anyway then I guess it doesn't matter that much. Still I'd prefer something like 2013 albeit without the TTT, maybe with a short prologue.
 
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Finn84 said:
Hugo Koblet said:
SHAD0W93 said:
Like I said in the Thomas thread it will be amazing if Tom and Roglic got within 10 seconds of Thomas to make Paris very interesting.

On who wins it honestly could be either of those 3 or a suprise but Landa and Zakarin will move up in GC over Crush Weak and Quintana.
It would be pretty fun if we saw some GC action on the last stage to Paris, but I think that no matter the time difference, we wouldn't see Dumoulin, Roglic or anyone else attack on the last stage.

If it's very close and riders don't pay attention, some splits may change positions. Like Kelderman moving ahead of Contador (for 4th place) in last year's Vuelta.
It's the Tour, in the eventuality of gaps they'll neutralize them.