Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Ulle97]

Las etapas con mayor desnivel del Tour (desde la era Merckx)- 39X28 ALTIMETRÍAS

Las etapas con mayor desnivel acumulado desde 1969 (desde la era Merckx)

39x28altimetrias.com

Wow that's an unbelievable document..... stages have definitely reduced in difficulty since the 7500m stages in the 90s.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Wow that's an unbelievable document..... stages have definitely reduced in difficulty since the 7500m stages in the 90s.

We no longer have +200 km of mountain stages

 

[stekelegel]

that 7.200 etappe looks so good on paper, glandon, difficult side madeleine I think, aravis, colombiere easy side and then joux plane. Probably no gc action for the last col.

 

[houtdffan]

In anticipation of the upcoming Tour route, I'm hoping for a mountain stage that might yield more than 2 proper HC climbs.

When was the last time we had 6000-7000m of elevation gain in a stage??

Morzine 1983, Sestrieres 1992

would love to see the alien division tackle those stages

 

[Rob5091]

Tour de France 2025 : les rumeurs et certitudes sur le parcours et les villes étapes de la 112e édition !

Première quinzaine de septembre, il est grand temps de porter le regard vers les rumeurs sur le parcours du Tour de France à venir, en l'occurrence la 112e édition, le Tour de France 2025 ! Là où j'indiquais l'an dernier que la publication arrivait un peu plus tôt car il y avait pas mal de rumeur

www.velowire.com

Same article but in da English which we're supposed to post in (or we get comments from mods about, "hey! this is an english language forum and translate it now or you'll be off to the naughty step!")

https://www.velowire.com/article/11...d-the-stage-cities-of-the-112th-edition-.html

Either people are being unusually very tight lipped or things are not 100% decided yet.

 

[ice&fire]

Morzine 1983, Sestrieres 1992

would love to see the alien division tackle those stages

They'd finish them in one hour less

 

[Red Rick]

They'd finish them in one hour less

Maybe. We don't have any data on how the modern peloton approaches such stages as a whole though.

Most climbs are joke grinders anyway, that would be a terrible stage design these days.

 

[ice&fire]

Maybe. We don't have any data on how the modern peloton approaches such stages as a whole though.

Most climbs are joke grinders anyway, that would be a terrible stage design these days.

One hour faster was obviously an exaggeration, but anyone interested can get a rough estimate based on average speed increase and stage duration.

Oops!...the classic Pau-Luchon was almost 50 minutes faster in 2012 compared to 1983.

Maybe I wasn't exaggerating too much.

 

[Red Rick]

One hour faster was obviously an exaggeration, but anyone interested can get a rough estimate based on average speed increase and stage duration.

Oops!...the classic Pau-Luchon was almost 50 minutes faster in 2012 compared to 1983.

Maybe I wasn't exaggerating too much.

60 minutes faster than 1983 I have absolutely 0 doubts about.

1992 I'm not sure. I guess not because if there is one thing they don't do extremely fast it's long mid stage climbs.

 

[ice&fire]

60 minutes faster than 1983 I have absolutely 0 doubts about.

1992 I'm not sure. I guess not because if there is one thing they don't do extremely fast it's long mid stage climbs.

They've done Bonette this year 3:32 faster than in 1993, but they've done it with less W/kg thanks to lighter bikes and drafting. No Izoard as starter also helped this year.

Second Greatest Performance Of All-Time By Pogačar | Tour de France 2024 Stage 19 - Lanterne Rouge

Tadej Pogačar again showed off his incredible legs, pushing all-time great watts on the popular Isola 2000 climb, winning his 15th Tour de France stage.

lanternerouge.com

 

[Red Rick]

They've done Bonette this year 3:32 faster than in 1993, but they've done it with less W/kg thanks to lighter bikes and drafting. No Izoard as starter also helped this year.

Second Greatest Performance Of All-Time By Pogačar | Tour de France 2024 Stage 19 - Lanterne Rouge

Tadej Pogačar again showed off his incredible legs, pushing all-time great watts on the popular Isola 2000 climb, winning his 15th Tour de France stage.

lanternerouge.com

Bikes from the 90s keep getting heavier and heavier.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

France Bleu have been dropping a bunch of information this morning:
Restday 1 in Toulouse
Stage 11: Toulouse - Toulouse (road stage)
Stage 12: Muret - Superbagnères
Stage 13: ??? - Peyragudes
Stage 14: Auch (this one could also be on a different day) - ???

Edit: although the Hautes-Pyrenées are supposed to have a second stage as per earlier rumours, so perhaps Auch won't be stage 14.

 

[Red Rick]

France Bleu have been dropping a bunch of information this morning:
Restday 1 in Toulouse
Stage 11: Toulouse - Toulouse (road stage)
Stage 12: Muret - Superbagnères
Stage 13: ??? - Peyragudes
Stage 14: Auch (this one could also be on a different day) - ???

Edit: although the Hautes-Pyrenées are supposed to have a second stage as per earlier rumours, so perhaps Auch won't be stage 14.

Get da nukes ready boys

 

[ashhutch1997]

Get da nukes ready boys

I'm not as notorious as you Rick when it comes to moaning about routes, but these Pyrenees stages make my eyes bleed.

 

[OlavEH]

I'm not as notorious as you Rick when it comes to moaning about routes, but these Pyrenees stages make my eyes bleed.

The first one can be pretty good given the location for start and finish. Muret to Superbagneres could mean Portet d'Aspet, Mente and Portillon or Bales before Superbagneres. It isn't great, but at fairly good compared to mountain stages in recent years. But a following stage to Peyragudes seem pretty underwhelming.

 

[ashhutch1997]

The first one can be pretty good given the location for start and finish. Muret to Superbagneres could mean Portet d'Aspet, Mente and Portillon or Bales before Superbagneres. It isn't great, but at fairly good compared to mountain stages in recent years. But a following stage to Peyragudes seem pretty underwhelming.

I like Superbagnères returning, it's the potential MTT up Peyragudes the next day that I gave issue with.

 

[OlavEH]

it's the potential MTT up Peyragudes the next day that I gave issue with.

Ah, fcuk me. It's a MTT. That was even worse than I thought.

 

[ice&fire]

Ah, fcuk me. It's a MTT. That was even worse than I thought.

Yeah, seeing Peyragudes is bad, but seeing it on repeat from start to end of the broadcast is a punishment.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I'm not as notorious as you Rick when it comes to moaning about routes, but these Pyrenees stages make my eyes bleed.

And it will be coming after the easiest first half of the race in forever. Unless the Alps are really good, this is shaping up to be a godawful route.

 

[Froome]

No massif central or vosges in the first week?

The route will be awfull and backloaded again.

 

[E_F_]

So practically an unipuerto to Superbagneres and a time trial... That's the Pyrenees...

 

[OlavEH]

No massif central or vosges in the first week?

The route will be awfull and backloaded again.

Vosges would be too off-route when they start in Lille and go down the coast through Normandy and Brittany.

But they should have been able to do a couple of stages in Massif Central at the end of the first week.

 

[ashhutch1997]

No massif central or vosges in the first week?

The route will be awfull and backloaded again.

It's like the Jean-Marie Leblanc routes in the 2000's, but with softer mountain stages..

 

[Rob5091]

Remco friendly? Lenny Martinez (the next great French hope) friendly? Keep the GC as close as possible before the Alps?

 

[ashhutch1997]

Remco friendly? Lenny Martinez (the next great French hope) friendly? Keep the GC as close as possible before the Alps?

They can try and make it Remco friendly, but he ain't getting anywhere near the two aliens, especially if Vingegaard's back to full fitness.