Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Rob5091]

15 sprint/breakaway stages, 2 ITT, 3 GC deciding stages in the Alps and a jaunt around the Arc d'Triomphe - two aliens plus Roglic (don't forget him going all in again) plus Remco. The punters will be breaking down the doors to see that!

 

[E_F_]

It's possible to make a good stage to Peyragudes isn't it? https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48510623?privacy_code=TJRMASm3PdHtmJU36YPVGbsF4VVhktqT

Of course it starts way west of where the actual will start, but...

 

[Wyndbrook]

They'd finish them in one hour less

Maybe Claudio will make a comeback and show them how it's done.

 

[E_F_]

It's possible to make a good stage to Peyragudes isn't it? https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48510623?privacy_code=TJRMASm3PdHtmJU36YPVGbsF4VVhktqT

Of course it starts way west of where the actual will start, but...

Here's what it'll be... https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48510756?privacy_code=XJS5DkOjBAyFpnGCM4hKOZg0SfFIUyeQ

 

[houtdffan]

60 minutes faster than 1983 I have absolutely 0 doubts about.

1992 I'm not sure. I guess not because if there is one thing they don't do extremely fast it's long mid stage climbs.

You think the three aliens wouldnt attack on the iseran?

 

[Froome]

I read it on velowire of the possible return of La plagne.

I hope is not true. Superbagneres and La plagne are the type of mountain finishes ASO should avoid because they're not steep climbs.

I hope Finestre will be at the Tour, and i would like very much if Granon returns.

If the Pyrenees will be super light, it could means, Mont ventoux on sunday.

 

[Escarabajo]

Superbagneres and La Plagne are great climbs. I don't know why we are so focused on steepness of the climbs and relate that to time gaps or spectacle. Not only that, it depends how you put the designs of the stages.

In 1986 Superbagneres provided one of the best mountain stages that I ever watched in my life.

 

[rghysens]

No massif central or vosges in the first week?

The route will be awfull and backloaded again.

There are rumours of a stage to Monte Dore (massif central) on july 14th.

 

[rghysens]

So practically an unipuerto to Superbagneres and a time trial... That's the Pyrenees...

Port de Balès + Superbagnères

 

[ashhutch1997]

Port de Balès + Superbagnères

It's still pretty bleak.

 

[Netserk]

There are rumours of a stage to Monte Dore (massif central) on july 14th.

Best outcome left at this point.

 

[Froome]

There are rumours of a stage to Monte Dore (massif central) on july 14th.

Medium mountain stage right? I don't know if monte dore is that hard.

How about puy de dome? They could do it again.

 

[Froome]

It's a shame the fact they are not using those super steep and rough climbs of ain and jura department, like col de la biche, selle fromentel, mont du chat.

 

[houtdffan]

I read it on velowire of the possible return of La plagne.

I hope is not true. Superbagneres and La plagne are the type of mountain finishes ASO should avoid because they're not steep climbs.

I hope Finestre will be at the Tour, and i would like very much if Granon returns.

If the Pyrenees will be super light, it could means, Mont ventoux on sunday.

not all MTFs need to be steep

very long grinding climbs have their place

 

[rghysens]

Medium mountain stage right? I don't know if monte dore is that hard.

How about puy de dome? They could do it again.

Yeah, medium mountain at best. Mont Dore is 3-4 km @ 7%, it can be preceded by Croix Morand and/or Croix Saint-Robert, both something of 8-9 km @ 5-6%.

 

[Monsi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837139969703301284

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1837139969703301284?s=61&t=ZKEjWhZs_lhx6xYjfM44ig


Well, Ventoux MTF looks to be back. Pog and Jonas about to destroy another climbing time. Hopefully they do double Ventoux again with the MTF.

 

[Froome]

not all MTFs need to be steep

very long grinding climbs have their place

Personally, i don't like those type of climbs, because the draft has been playing a major role, even more in the last years, with the improvement of the bikes.

On those type of climbs, the draft makes no difference.

Besides that, it looks like those type of climbs doesn't tire that much the top climbers.

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837139969703301284

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1837139969703301284?s=61&t=ZKEjWhZs_lhx6xYjfM44ig


Well, Ventoux MTF looks to be back. Pog and Jonas about to destroy another climbing time. Hopefully they do double Ventoux again with the MTF.

Good news.

 

[Monsi]

not all MTFs need to be steep

very long grinding climbs have their place

I would like a long grinding climb as a MTF only if there is a long and steep penultimate climb that summits with like 50 km to go or something. That way, it incentivizes long range attacks.

 

[houtdffan]

I would like a long grinding climb as a MTF only if there is a long and steep penultimate climb that summits with like 50 km to go or something. That way, it incentivizes long range attacks.

the aliens don't seem to have issues going from distance on tempo grinders

let's not confuse the boring human division, who allows the break to win most mountain stages, with the 3 aliens who their version of a bad day is beating a Pantani record by a minute while still losing 3

 

[Peyroteo94]

They can try and make it Remco friendly, but he ain't getting anywhere near the two aliens, especially if Vingegaard's back to full fitness.

Finally, a reasonable guy. As long as we have mountains in the Tour, Remco cannot win against Vingegaard or Pogacar.

 

[zlev11]

you'd think they'd want to make the mountain stages super hard to avoid guys going 4 minutes faster than Pantani

 

[Netserk]

There are rumours of a stage to Monte Dore (massif central) on july 14th.

So as an example of what that could plausibly look like:

Montluçon > Mont-Dore

190.0 km, +4572 m. Bike ride in Montluçon, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

ridewithgps.com

Nothing brutal and no steep climbs like stage 11 this year, but still very good for a July 14 stage and it gives room for wild GC moves too.

 

[Froome]

Finally, a reasonable guy. As long as we have mountains in the Tour, Remco cannot win against Vingegaard or Pogacar.

How do you know that? Do you know how each rider will evolve in the next years?

There's nothing certain in cycling.

Maybe in the next years it will appear a new better generation and those guys will not win anymore.

 

[ashhutch1997]

How do you know that? Do you know how each rider will evolve in the next years?

There's nothing certain in cycling.

Maybe in the next years it will appear a new better generation and those guys will not win anymore.

I like Remco and love his style of racing. But he was over 3 minutes down on Jonas Vingegaard this year despite JV having next to no preparation or racing. A fully fit JV would put over 5 mins on him IMO, the best he can hope for is third. Just IMO.