Tour de France first rest-day poll: who will be on the podium with vingegard and pocagar.?

[Ilmaestro99]

All to play for

 

[dercuforever]

I think with the TT and multi-HC stages Seixas can do it.

 

[canina82]

My bet before the Tour was Seixas. Now I voted Torito.

 

[dercuforever]

My bet before the Tour was Seixas. Now I voted Torito.

Pogacar will defend it probably, since they want team classification as well.
Seixas will not be able to attack, he'll have to wait for Vingegaard to drop Del Toro and hope he can follow.

 

[Tim Cahill]

I think the others will be saved by Del Toros average tt

 

[Old-school]

The elimination race is expected to begin in the coming week, culminating in Salaison.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Lenny.

Also, hast this been the worst first week of the Tour in quite a while? Can't remember anything worse at least since thinking back until 2019.
Opening weekend could've been an email, the best was actually the TTT I would say which says it all. Afterwards we had one GC mountain stage that completely killed the race, 2 sub par breakaway stages and 3 sprints.

 

[vappa]

The only realistic answers are, in my opinion: Del Toro, Seixas, Remco, Lipowitz. Voted for Del Toro because he will either get help from Pogacar or be able to sit on others because of Pogacar up front

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Lenny.

Also, hast this been the worst first week of the Tour in quite a while? Can't remember anything worse at least since thinking back until 2019.
Opening weekend could've been an email, the best was actually the TTT I would say which says it all. Afterwards we had one GC mountain stage that completely killed the race, 2 sub par breakaway stages and 3 sprints.

2018 was pretty horrific. Five flat sprints, a TTT, two hilly stages that weren't really raced and a cobbles stage that also underdelivered. In addition, pretty much every GC contender bar Thomas either crashed out or lost time to crashes/mechanicals. Purely in terms of racing this week was less bad, but the outlook for the rest of the race is clearly worse.

 

[pihi42]

I think podium is Pogi/DelToro/Seixas. Vinge with Giro in legs will not handle the alps well.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Lenny.

Also, hast this been the worst first week of the Tour in quite a while? Can't remember anything worse at least since thinking back until 2019.
Opening weekend could've been an email, the best was actually the TTT I would say which says it all. Afterwards we had one GC mountain stage that completely killed the race, 2 sub par breakaway stages and 3 sprints.

I thought the first week of 2019 was quite fun, 2018 was pretty poor IMO.

 

[Heston]

Lipowitz. Hes for sure the 3rd strongest climber in the race. Del Toro is his main competition depending how much UAE try to go for 2 guys on the podium.

Seixas to round out the top 5, with a decent gap to the next tier of riders (Ayuso/Skjelmose/Remco/Lenny).

 

[Kopfsteinpflaster]

"who will be on the podium with vingegard and pocagar.?"

The podium girls.

 

[Rob5091]

Between Del Toro and Carapaz I reckon.

 

[topcat]

Between Ayuso and Skjelmose. I voted for Ayuso.

 

[Netserk]

odds on 365 :

2.25 - del toro
2.62 - lipoblitz
3.50 - muaddib
6.50 - evenepoel
8.00 - ayuso

 

[Peyresourde]

odds on 365 :

2.25 - del toro
2.62 - lipoblitz
3.50 - muaddib
6.50 - evenepoel
8.00 - ayuso

Evenepoel was a bit disappointing on Tourmalet, but his odds seem too long here. I am surprised that Lipowitz is so short.

I think it will be between Seixas, Del Toro and Evenepoel.

 

[Netserk]

yeah the odds reflect the strength on tourmalet , i think thats reasonable

tomorrow and the itt will favour evenepoel , but i expect lipo to drop him on all the hard uphill finishes

 

[Netserk]

i guess its somewhat likely that lipo will end up on a potato hunt after galibier and then bonk on sarenne

 

[Peyresourde]

yeah the odds reflect the strength on tourmalet , i think thats reasonable

tomorrow and the itt will favour evenepoel , but i expect lipo to drop him on all the hard uphill finishes

Even if that is the case, there are only 2 real uphill finishes. If Lipowitz drops him by 30 seconds each on Solaison and Alpe d'Huez, then he will still finish behind Evenepoel in GC (30 seconds behind already and the TT).

It is also far from impossible that Evenepoel gains time on another stage. Their odds to podium should be far closer at least, if not the other way around.

 

[AmRacer]

Even if that is the case, there are only 2 real uphill finishes. If Lipowitz drops him by 30 seconds each on Solaison and Alpe d'Huez, then he will still finish behind Evenepoel in GC (30 seconds behind already and the TT).

It is also far from impossible that Evenepoel gains time on another stage. Their odds to podium should be far closer at least, if not the other way around.

Bet a buck on Remco, easy money.

 

[Peyresourde]

Bet a buck on Remco, easy money.

The best bet should be a head-to-head vs. Lipowitz. The podium is far more uncertain.

 

[Old-school]

I think Del Toro and Lipo are the favorites, while Remco and Paul are the underdogs, given the uncertainty surrounding their consistency. Del Toro has the advantage to sit on others when pogi is on the front but on the other hand he could be sacrificed for Pogi if something goes wrong.
Seixas should let the other 3 team leaders do the 1st move once Pogi and Jonas are gone, and then try to counter-attack if he has the legs.

 

[vappa]

odds on 365 :

2.25 - del toro
2.62 - lipoblitz
3.50 - muaddib
6.50 - evenepoel
8.00 - ayuso

Don't know why Lipowitz is so short, Del Toro and Seixas were at least as strong so far and Remco will gain 1 minute on TT alone

 

[Brullnux]

Evenepoel was a bit disappointing on Tourmalet, but his odds seem too long here. I am surprised that Lipowitz is so short.

I think it will be between Seixas, Del Toro and Evenepoel.

The odds reflect the fact Evenepoel has strung together only two competent GT performances in his career, from six attempts.