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Mar 18, 2009
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It is not just about news. All the radio channels are owned by Clear Channel. All the big movie production companies are owned by international mega corps. It seems like half the cable channels are ultimately owned by Comcast.

The Daily Show offers a more honest take on the news than the news channels.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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BroDeal said:
It is not just about news. All the radio channels are owned by Clear Channel. All the big movie production companies are owned by international mega corps. It seems like half the cable channels are ultimately owned by Comcast.

The Daily Show offers a more honest take on the news than the news channels.
My first question is, would you rather state owned media? My second question is, do you think it is realistic and financially viable that all these different media organisations are all owned by different people or groups?
 
Nov 24, 2009
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Saw on the news that so far, 500 million dollars or something within that vicinity has been spent on the election. Most of it has been spent by the Republicans, which is logical considering they are trying to unseat the President.

I live in the nation to the north, and it would be unfathomable to see so many dollars spent on an election. Then again, many, many caveats apply, such as there is only about a 10th of the population and the fact that Canada does not have a two party system, though it may want to drift that way in the future, does make it difficult to justify collectively spending half a billion dollars for an election. Plus, I think there are spending caps and the insanity of Super Pacs have not crossed the border, at least not yet.

Anyway, shame this election is a bit uninspiring. Obama has been somewhat milquetoast, though he did have a few large problems handed off to him to mitigate his effectiveness and as for Romney I wouldn't elect him even if I lived three lifetimes.
 
May 18, 2009
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auscyclefan94 said:
My first question is, would you rather state owned media? My second question is, do you think it is realistic and financially viable that all these different media organisations are all owned by different people or groups?
Is it a binary situation for you? Either it is dominated by corporate takeover/consolidation, or it is state owned? Brodeal is not advocating state owned media.

It is possible to have regulation in place to ensure one interest does not dominate any particular business. As I alluded to upthread, the big culprit here is a bill signed by a democratic president in 1996. And some on here have wondered why I am fed up with the Dem party. They are spineless enablers, treating their blinded supporters running to the polls to a good game of BS.
 
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ChrisE said:
Is it a binary situation for you? Either it is dominated by corporate takeover/consolidation, or it is state owned? Brodeal is not advocating state owned media.

It is possible to have regulation in place to ensure one interest does not dominate any particular business. As I alluded to upthread, the big culprit here is a bill signed by a democratic president in 1996. And some on here have wondered why I am fed up with the Dem party. They are spineless enablers, treating their blinded supporters running to the polls to a good game of BS.
Realistically I think it is.
 
Mar 18, 2009
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auscyclefan94 said:
Realistically I think it is.
The chief problem is media consolidation. For example, Clear Channel owns eight or nine hundred radio stations. There are small communities where six out of the nine radio stations are owned by Clear Channel. Usually the content is piped in from remote locations, including the DJs.
 
Jun 1, 2011
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BroDeal said:
The chief problem is media consolidation. For example, Clear Channel owns eight or nine hundred radio stations. There are small communities where six out of the nine radio stations are owned by Clear Channel. Usually the content is piped in from remote locations, including the DJs.
All thanks to the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership


Both parties joined the band wagon on this one. Coporate domination and state domination can be one in the same. State domination can become the worse, but there both from the same kernal of human nature.

1996 was the same year I saw the newspaper industry start its tailspin.

Funny nobody in either party is talking about anti-trust action to bust some of these monopolies up.
 
May 18, 2009
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BillytheKid said:
Funny nobody in either party is talking about anti-trust action to bust some of these monopolies up.
What? These corps are actually real live people. :rolleyes:

The dawn of trojan horse trianglation was in 1992. Welcome to the new world order. Also under that 'democratic' president most of the major oil companies merged or had wink-wink to pursue merger, rubber stamped by that president's Justice Dept/FTC. I'm sure there has been no impact on the consumder because of that. :rolleyes:

Here are some more media goodies, this time on the funny BS math of the Ryan budget. Atkins is a pretty good writer and I read him regularly.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-shrill-and-serious-by-davidoatkins.html
 
For those of you who think Joe Biden is a loose cannon:

Sen. Claire McCaskill is probably having a pretty good Sunday. Her opponent in the Missouri Senate race, Republican Rep. Todd Akin, has spent most of the day backtracking after saying that victims of "legitimate rape" cannot biologically become pregnant and thus do not need access to legal abortions.

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy after rape] is really rare," Akin told KTVI-TV in defense of his stand that rape victims should not be allowed to access abortions. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
This is really interesting. Now I understand why a kid resulting from rape is called illegitimate. The rape must have been illegitimate, because if it had been legitimate rape, there would have been no pregnancy and no kid. You can only have an illegitimate child from an illegitimate rape, which, if I understand Akin correctly, isn't really rape. If a pregnancy occurs, I guess the woman wanted the baby all along.

But at least we've come a long way from the days when there was no such thing as rape because the woman wanted the sex all along. If the rape is legitimate, she didn't want it, though I guess if it was illegitimate, she did want it. That's why she becomes pregnant.

From a parody account set up after this news went viral:

My statement relied pretty heavily on my understanding that babies come from storks? Now I’m hearing different?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gop-senate-candidate-says-misspoke-legitimate-rape-005818070.html

I wondered how Paul Ryan could, like Akin, oppose abortions even in the case of rape. Now it all makes sense.

The real question, though, is can we abort legislation that results from raping the taxpayer?
 
Sep 10, 2009
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http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-vs-fiscal-conservatism.html

But, no, [Ryan] is not a serious fiscal conservative. Not even close. In 2012, decades after supply-side economics was proven not to add more revenues than it gave back, Ryan is still a true-believer. His view is that if you cut taxes massively, you will decrease the debt. But this is the primary reason we currently have the massive debt that began its ascent under Reagan, was arrested by Bush and Clinton and then exploded under Bush and Ryan. Worse, Ryan believes that you can cut taxes drastically, increase defense spending massively and still cut the debt. This, to put it mildly, is Zombie-Reaganomics.

On the Republican side, we now have a debt-reduction plan that actually cuts tax rates for the very rich along with everyone else, vastly increases defense spending, and "balances" the entire thing on gutting care for the old, the poor and the sick (the Medicaid proposal is truly Darwinian) and ending loopholes (which Ryan refuses to specify). I'm all for ending loopholes but even then, we wouldn't get a balanced budget for three decades because of all the defense spending and tax cutting.

This isn't conservatism. It's rightist theology. In a fiscal emergency, the Republicans are proposing not clear remedies but ideological fantasies that were already disproven in 1990. They have learned nothing. And the immense damage they inflicted on this country's fiscal health in the last decade would be nothing compared to what would come under a Ryan-Romney administration.
Pretty much spot-on.
 
Jul 4, 2009
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...true story:eek:

Claim: A ship named the HMS Romney was once used to help enforce import duties on the British North American colonies.

TRUE.

[Collected via e-mail, April 2012]

I was on facebook today and I saw a message directed at Teabaggers which stated:

Hey Teabaggers
Guess what?
In 1768, the British dispatched a 50-gun warship to New England to enforce the crown's right of taxation over the rebellious colonist.
The name of that ship?
HMS Romney

Cheers

blutto
 
Sep 10, 2009
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Merckx index said:
For those of you who think Joe Biden is a loose cannon:



This is really interesting. Now I understand why a kid resulting from rape is called illegitimate. The rape must have been illegitimate, because if it had been legitimate rape, there would have been no pregnancy and no kid. You can only have an illegitimate child from an illegitimate rape, which, if I understand Akin correctly, isn't really rape. If a pregnancy occurs, I guess the woman wanted the baby all along.

But at least we've come a long way from the days when there was no such thing as rape because the woman wanted the sex all along. If the rape is legitimate, she didn't want it, though I guess if it was illegitimate, she did want it. That's why she becomes pregnant.

From a parody account set up after this news went viral:



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gop-senate-candidate-says-misspoke-legitimate-rape-005818070.html

I wondered how Paul Ryan could, like Akin, oppose abortions even in the case of rape. Now it all makes sense.

The real question, though, is can we abort legislation that results from raping the taxpayer?
Not surprising, really - no abortions, even in cases of rape or incest, is part of the official GOP platform.

First Read has confirmed a CNN report that the draft language on abortion in the Republican Party's official platform calls for the "Human Life Amendment," which would outlaw abortion in all circumstances (even in cases of rape or incest). An RNC official tells us that a full committee will vote on this draft language -- which was THE SAME LANGUAGE in 2004 and 2008 -- tomorrow, and the full convention will take it up on Monday. On Sunday night, after Todd Akin's controversial comments on abortion and rape first surfaced, the Romney campaign stated that a Romney-Ryan administration "would not oppose abortion in instances of rape." But that statement would run counter to the RNC's official platform, if the language is again adopted.
Little wonder that they don't want to talk about social issues; they know they'd get creamed.

And never mind Akin, Ryan is even worse:

It’s almost unfair that Todd Akin is the new national symbol of anti-abortion extremism; compared to Ryan, he’s almost a squish. Akin received a 90 percent rating from the National Right to Life Committee during one of his six terms. Ryan has maintained a 100 percent rating throughout the same period.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/paul-ryan-cosponsored-all-most-extreme-anti-abortion-bills?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Motherjones/mojoblog+(MotherJones.com+|+MoJoBlog)

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/ryan-is-more-extreme-than-akin.html
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Lol. The wingnuts going full nutter:

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STRIPS LANCE ARMSTRONG OF ALL TOUR-DE-FRANCE TITLES, OLYMPIC MEDAL IN “UNCONSTITUTIONAL WITCH HUNT”

http://patdollard.com/2012/08/obama-administration-strips-lance-armstrong-of-all-tour-de-france-titles-olympic-medal-in-unconstitutional-witch-hunt/
and comments on breitbart indicate imminent meltdown. To the bunkers!

GOTHAM1883
Let's ban the usada. They are just another political party. We still have faith Lance.

BOFB
NEWSBREAK: USADA awards vacated Tour de France titles to President Barack Obama. When asked for comment, President Obama said, "Lance couldn't have won all of these titles on his own. He had some help."

SEEKING_JUSTICE
He didn't build that bicycle. He couldn't have gone so fast if it weren't for smooth government roads to pedal on. I am so sick of this social justice being used at any instance, but especially when it is clearly aimed at those who have surpassed great odds and expectations and people are simply jealous.

RENOHIGHTOWER
The NCAA (another quasi-governing body) has done the same thing in the past: we can't produce any evidence you're guilty, but we think you are guilty, therefore you're guilty. Gives us all a view of life in the former Kremlin

RDMAN_VIETVET
Yeah, and you missed my truth and reason... rumors, allegations, insinuations are not the basis to ruin a man's life's achievements.

The allegations against Clemens were tossed out of court. And so will the allegations against Lance. All of this crap is little more than Nazi gestapo tactics... period.

RDMAN_VIETVET
How many doping tests did Lance undergo during is racing career and the labs came up with Zip, Zero, Nada!!

In the USA, it used to be... Innocent until proven Guilty!!!


RDMAN_VIETVET
What's your problem???? Are you from France or some other socialist gulag.

In all the sophisticated tests and procedures conducted, they found NOTHING!!!

... really is "possible" he's guilty... that allegation would be thrown out on its face in a sane world!! You don't ruin a man's career on "possible!" Where's your proof or evidence???

GLENN47
Yeah and over 500 clean tests mean nothing. He was proven to have the heart and lungs like Secretariat did. He was also one of the hardest trainers ever made.

VALUEENGRING
Really, you jaggons that support the Feds without question are the reason it is the insane all-consuming leviathan of oppression and ex post facto persecution it is, please move to Cuba or Venezuela where you belong.

RON2WIN2
A corrupt government and its agencies can find all the witnesses it needs ,if it wants to get you.The usada has all the ear marks of a smug ,arrogant bureaucratic government worker trying to justify his miserable existence. They have all the time and resources they need to harass you to your grave.As soon as Lance says he's done .The worthless government agent immediately claims victory and trashs Lance . A sure sign that Tygart has been on a vendetta since 1996.No physical evidence in sixteen years of investigating ,just witnesses who have an agenda .He's proclaimed guilty through wispers and innuendo.Americans stand with you Lance ,even if your government dosen't !

MAXPAYNE
The entire sport of world class professional cycling is dishonest and corrupt. Events like the tour de france have become a complete joke. It started in the 60's and has gotten progressively worse. Although Lance has passed every drug test he has ever taken they have kept chipping away at him with accusations. Now they have the witnesses from his former team mates to do him in. Taking away his 7 wins based on accusations of wrong doing is totally wrong especially when he passed all the drug testing at the time. I'm sure all the french and german bicycling fans are celebrating since they have shown no mercy in their hatred of this man. Personally the french can take their stinking bicycle race and put it where the sun don't shine.

1GRIEVOUSANGEL
yeah right...he left needles laying around?? junkie drug addicts hide their stash but we are to believe he left them laying around? I think its a witch hunt....if they had real proof theyd have used it YEARS AGO.. not now..I dont blame him, I'd tell them to #### off in a much less nicer way

GLENN47
Exactly, and if you were going to do it, would you do it in front of of your team?

CHISTEN
Our Government cannot tolerate anyone who can excel on their own. It goes against the rules of socialism. Therefore Lance could not win all those Tour de France, without help. Since it wasn't the Government that helped him, it must be steroids. The USADA has to destroy him, or they must admit that people can be successful on their own abilities! Another hero bites the dust! Look to see any super successful sports athlete, be destroyed the same way! Remember Rollerball?
and so many more... hilarious.
 
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gooner said:
I did'nt watch it either. Everyone would be saying how great Ann Romney's speech is and how she gained more women voters for Mitt. It would be just a load of old tosh with speeches playing to the gallery.
Your exactly right thats all they talked about
 
Switched on to the convention and its Pawlenty doing stand up comedy. How on earth did he get a prime time speech. Hes an ex governoe, and evolution denier (and they already got that covered with huckabee) who offers absolutely nothing.
 
Wow, Condi actually spoke on an issue, and not the usual - "their candidate sucks, our candidate will save america" cliches and cheap shots, that these conventions are usually about.

1 or 2 plugs for Romney but otherwise you wouldnt even know who the candidates were.
 
Jul 7, 2009
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My fave is when those politicians aspiring to office call those in office as "playing politics".
I wonder if these people hear what they are saying.
Politics is show business for ugly people.
 
The Hitch said:
Switched on to the convention and its Pawlenty doing stand up comedy. How on earth did he get a prime time speech. Hes an ex governoe, and evolution denier (and they already got that covered with huckabee) who offers absolutely nothing.
I heard Pawlenty on the way in to my office tonight. Sad part is that he couldn't even get a laugh out of the chosen. The dude who came on after Pawlenty was even worse, though. I missed the introduction because I stopped off to buy a bottle of whiskey, so I don't know who it was, but I had to put in a CD. Couldn't handle it.

As for your other comment about Rice, I've always liked her. My impression is that she is yet another fine mind hamstrung by a poisonous administration. Glad she rose above the horse**** at the convention.

In other news, I have a first edition, first printing of Atlas Shrugged. Anyone on here wanna buy it? I've currently got it hidden in a 50 Shades of Grey dust jacket on my book shelf, so it's in very good condition. (The dust jacket isn't included :p) Maybe I should post in on Craigslist in Tampa. Cash in on these morons with too much money.

EDIT: Also, RE your signature, did Wiggins really say "beated"?
 
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I just watched a Youtube of Condi's speech.

There is nobody on the left who can hold a candle to her. Nobody.

Too bad she's not on the ticket.

Hopefully she accepts a smokin cabinet post.
 
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gooner said:
I did'nt see it but I heard Chris Christie spoke more about himself than endorsing Romney and has been accused of being selfish by promoting his own future potential presendential ambitions. .

and headed straight back to the backstage buffet
 

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