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Even though jb isn't my choice, he would likely be better than what dt has been, but maybe more importantly, what dt will be in a second term. I can't even begin to image how reckless dt will be when he has no reelection concerns.
 
Biden appears to think he can also be a revisionist. Trump wasn't working the pile at Ground Zero. There weren't any Muslims dancing on their roofs or in the streets celebrating the planes hitting the WTC.
So Biden got caught multiple times by fellow debaters ,the moderator and the public in general,the look on his face when a young pretty black woman read an ugly racist quote from him he was generally stunned.
Ramos from Univision read multiple lies Biden told and instead of Biden questioning the validity of the claims he just smirked.Ramos asking "why should we trust you now?" and Biden' s inability to respond probably meant Joe was wearing his lucky Hillary T-shirt underneath his suit.
If anyone else had a chance to come towards the center they didn't do it last night. Free school, complete debt forgiveness,ditching private health insurance,monthly payments for every American...way too far left for most. But the nuke was suggesting that the government go on a AK47- AR15 confiscation campaign was applause worthy but I don't think it will equal votes
 
It's great to see these GOP lapdogs be in the pinch they are in..re-gun control/UBC. If they support these, they get smacked by their knuckledragging base..of they don't, they get smacked by the YUGE moderate middle. BUT...a big we'll see..I doubt McConnell, trumps biggest, sad faced hinge-neck, will put GOP senators on tne spot and on the record, with a vote..McConnell, like trump and guys like Cruz, need to go..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-call-with-trump-pelosi-and-schumer-say-any-gun-bill-that-doesnt-include-background-checks-will-not-get-the-job-done/2019/09/15/5ae48ed0-d7df-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html?noredirect=on

For right above..GM strike..maybe Herr trump will call out the national guard...
 
If the dept of labor kept in and out statistics on unemployment we would all be better off. Watched " American Factory " on Netflix and a few people interviewed on film said similar things about the workers way of life. Working on an auto assembly line,union benefits package, @$28-40 per hour wage,decent conditions and high expectations for the health and safety of workers. The film details a Chinese company tooling up and building automotive glass products in the US w American workers and Chinese management and Chinese workplace philosophies.
Most workers were making @$12-14 dollars an hour and the Chinese management personnel had high expectations for the workers.
dept of labor statistics show full time employment but don't reflect the 30-60% wage decline and loss of benefits and increase in workplace pressure.. In my opinion they should track the person's wages and benefits when they became unemployed and see if they reentered at a wage higher or lower.
 
From the recent NBC news/ WSJ national poll. Peak America 2019 for the seniors to hate the socialist candidate.
Age
Under 35
Sanders 33%
Warren 25%
Yang 11%
Biden 10%
Harris 7%
Buttigieg 5%
O’Rourke 2%

65+
Biden 46%
Warren 25%
Buttigieg 7%
Booker 4%
Gabbard 3%
Klobuchar 2%
O’Rourke 2%
Sanders 2%
 
From the recent NBC news/ WSJ national poll. Peak America 2019 for the seniors to hate the socialist candidate.
Age
Under 35
Sanders 33%
Warren 25%
Yang 11%
Biden 10%
Harris 7%
Buttigieg 5%
O’Rourke 2%

65+
Biden 46%
Warren 25%
Buttigieg 7%
Booker 4%
Gabbard 3%
Klobuchar 2%
O’Rourke 2%
Sanders 2%
Interesting (huge) difference for Sanders, but also interesting that Warren is second at 25% in both age groups. I'm surprised that Buttigieg and Booker aren't up farther with the under 35s, and surprised that Yang is that high.

Can I conclude that Warren will pull this because of her support from all ages?

As always, I question polls for their accuracy/validity for many reasons but...
 
I wonder if Trump can really interpret the action by the Fed.? Multiple members voting to lower the rate. Just @7 weeks after the last slash. One urging a 1pt cut.
What does this select group that do nothing other than pour over economic everything..what do they see? Why 2 actions in less than @2 months? What are they afraid of?
 
Interesting (huge) difference for Sanders, but also interesting that Warren is second at 25% in both age groups. I'm surprised that Buttigieg and Booker aren't up farther with the under 35s, and surprised that Yang is that high.

Can I conclude that Warren will pull this because of her support from all ages?

As always, I question polls for their accuracy/validity for many reasons but...
Yang and Sanders high with the youths, obviously the Joe Rogan effect.

Currently, I think Warren has a lot of second place votes on people's ballots. So, if the field is winnowed quickly, I think she has the advantage. I don't think her voters and Sanders voters overlap as much as the conventional wisdom suggests, but I think there is enough split vote that Biden still has the clear advantage if there is a 3 person race through Super Tuesday.
 
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Trump held a press conference that was both in and out of sequence at the same time,his normal. He listed things he thinks of significance about the US military machine. Weapons of every shape and size. Tanks, planes,drones,missile systems,submarines!!
He has over these last days integrated Saudi Arabia into his lengthy praise of joint ventures involving armaments.
All this hardware is in place as the Saudis crashed into the World Trade Center. The Saudis have miles of our military hardware in place but it did nothing when a tiny strategic strike took out the Saudis oil supply.
So if an argument was ever needed for increased in diplomatic relations and intelligence gathering it's now. Over and over we have listened to the rant about the significance of the US - Saudi relationship. We here little about Qatar and Turkey..both have received or dished out disrespect toward US cooperation.
Israel and anyone else can have nuclear weapons that are unusable for protection either before or after an attack.
We needed a strong team..for everything. Now is Trump wants to take on everything,everyone Arab,Muslim or non European he is going to lose..we are going to lose. America can't defeat Iran,period, sure a guaranteed win in a battle but no way in a war.
The U.S. should listen to itself. As the Saudis display unmistakable metal objects originating in Iran as proof, too many other people in the region and beyond can show similar metal fragments..Made in the USA,..Yemen,Libya,Lebanon,Syria and all over the place.
If Trump doesn't think a war against Iran won't endanger our bus load of troops in Afghanistan he is higher than normal. This guy is trying to kill Americans, air,water and weapons,big and small.
If Trump could learn anything from Putin ask him why he left Afghanistan..
 
Increasingly I feel like I am surrounded by stupid people. ...in traffic, at the store, at the local festival, at the Y, on the trail, at work (not my colleagues so much, but the others that we 'work' with). The old cliche' "common sense aint so common anymore " seems to be on full blast around me. I bring this up in this thread because I think that this is at least part of why USA politicians/politics are so F ed up.

Disclaimer: I'm not claiming to be a functional genius! :)
 
Anyone on here LDS? Its seems that the LDS people in S. Idaho are more anti brown than I realized. I am not a religious person, but I struggle to see how any religious person can be OK with dt. It seems that maybe the LDS church is OK with dt as long as he keeps the brown people away from us. They are obviously anti woman's' rights (abortion and other) too.

This might have something to do with my post above...
 
I have seen Mormon missionaries working throughout M Mexico. As a fellow white boy I often racially profile them and talk to them in English. I normally find them sincere and pleasant. If they don't like brown people it's not evident to me during my many encounters.
a few Christian outreach groups have orphanage services here in Northern Baja. The LDS church does a version of Habitat for humanity and build small homes,schools and clinics.
Silber, Jelly Belly and Garmin, EF Education and Wildlife riders have all helped w shelter constitution in the past..
I have also found that people are a little myopic about Western US history. Everyone I know that grew up in Phoenix -Scottsdale area..everyone from San Diego all start talking about the good old days..some simpler times Oregon and Washington are still on people's list,but I would guess that @80% of all escapees or would be runways are headed for Utah or....Idaho. When you here people coming unglued about housing costs,traffic,government,immigrants,queers,ect,ect..Idaho is held up constantly as utopia..real America!!
Like I said..I think that the place is backwards because of that blue astroturf..
 
Anyone on here LDS? Its seems that the LDS people in S. Idaho are more anti brown than I realized. I am not a religious person, but I struggle to see how any religious person can be OK with dt. It seems that maybe the LDS church is OK with dt as long as he keeps the brown people away from us. They are obviously anti woman's' rights (abortion and other) too.

This might have something to do with my post above...
most definitely - just look at the Aust Prime Minister... Hillsong happy clapper religious nutjob, buttmunching away on dt like nothing on earth...
sublime idiocy, although does fit with his completely out-of-touch behaviour, and an utter embarrassment to his country
 
Anyone on here LDS? Its seems that the LDS people in S. Idaho are more anti brown than I realized. I am not a religious person, but I struggle to see how any religious person can be OK with dt. It seems that maybe the LDS church is OK with dt as long as he keeps the brown people away from us. They are obviously anti woman's' rights (abortion and other) too.

This might have something to do with my post above...
Not sure about LDS; they seem more or less neutral on race.
I Did hear some really disturbing religious broadcasts in N. Idaho about the "Rapture". Seems that the commentators were espousing about the great glory after this world's end. Specifically that the Holy Trinity would remake the world in a more shiny, glorious version. They likened it to the difference between staying at a Motel 6 vs. the 4 Seasons! OK great; you think the listeners will embrace their demise at the hands of a Middle East apocalyptic war and keep tithing to the pulpit in the meantime?

No way. They were justifying the need to loosen carbon emissions, mine, log and "utilize the current gifts, from God of this Earth as it is fleeting". To hear a clerical sermon refer to the Earth as temporary and disposable was a shock. I could say that most of the listeners probably never will see a 4 Seasons, know how to spell Carbon Emissions but certainly will vote on the fleeting hope their logging and mining jobs will come back and the cost of gas might go down...although they'll use more of it as federal EPA regulations are placed back to 2001 standards.
Very disturbing political message delivered with a lot of "Praise Jesus.....Amen, amen, amen..." as punctuation to the dialogue. If you wonder about the DT tradeoff with the evangelical community; they are working on his behalf.
 
I watched part of the Emmy awards. A few things were obvious..every smokin' hot black woman available was given the opportunity to present an award. Another thing that stuck me as everything surrounding Chernobyl.
when the disaster happened,the only thing worse than the immediate and everlasting death and devastation was the government reaction.
The party line was to downplay the event. Isolate the area and those suffering. The less people knew the better. An official denial from top to bottom,any dissemination of information was a serious crime.
Have we that short of a memory as to not remember that Putin has had 4 major nuclear accidents in less than 2 years..a nuke weapons accident in August.
Is this really the best time for the US to trash nuclear agreements that have some oversight and monitoring?
Chernobyl may seem long long ago,far far away but it could happen again anytime
 
most definitely - just look at the Aust Prime Minister... Hillsong happy clapper religious nutjob, buttmunching away on dt like nothing on earth...
sublime idiocy, although does fit with his completely out-of-touch behaviour, and an utter embarrassment to his country
How about the nut job Canadian prime minister that enjoys dressing up in black-face and when it came out last week he "apologised" by saying it was because of his "privileged upbringing" that he didn't know it was racist!! Don't think he is LDS though ... possibly Catholic, I believe.
 

Possible the most racist and delusional religion in existence, and that’s a high bar.
I apologize for not elaborating further...LDS individuals that I've met don't seem to have outward racial issues. Some of my family lives in a community with many LDS and agribusiness workers. There is local respect but the policies and history of LDS is most heinous on many counts. You'll get no argument on that although some of the modern evangelical "churches" in our neighborhood are much more outwardly racist and intolerant. Ironically, they consider LDS their major competition for recruitment in....wait....Mexico and South America. They just don't want them to come here.
 
Here in California things are different. Fair to say strange. Auto workers on strike,one reason,health care. Health care workers estimates say @80,000 threatening strike,because they see billions in profits and very little translation to overall well being of employees. Highest gas taxes and still agencies tasked with road building,maintenance and repair claim they have no money. Teachers,sick of horrible pay decide that having to pay for classroom supplies out of pocket was another reason to strike. Utility companies now pleading poverty..they need to have rolling blackouts so over stressed power lines don't cause wildfires.
you gotta ask.
if the economy is the "best in American history" as Team Trump keeps claiming,why don't we have the best hospitals and schools? Best paid providers in both.
Why don't we have the best roads,bridges,buses and trains?
Why can't anybody mandate that utility companies use non lead pipes and trim there plants so they are not so close to powerlines and catch on fire!!
part of the answer is here in California. Do we need more aircraft carriers or tanks? No but nobody says so for fear of looking unpatriotic and cutting off billions flowing to defense jobs.
California has a little quirk..anytime there is a logical choice..let's say roads or schools..desperate need for attention..
that takes money. Where will it come from? Taxes. Any politician that sees something that is obviously going to be unpopular, they don't take a stand,don't make a plan. Instead rather than playing political hot potato and possibly sink their career and political future,they toss it back to the voters using a referendum.
so all over the country the story is similar. We need money and nobody has the courage to talk about budgets or raising taxes.
We have lots of money, we just have some really ultra phuckt up priorities on how to spend it.
when we wake up from this drunken Trump bachelor party and realize what he bought w his USA credit card, we are going to be sad.
 
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