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BroDeal said:
Uh-oh. Someone at the event possessed a bit of common sense about gun buybacks.

“It’s a silly idea because these people that turn the guns in are not the ones that are the problem in the country today,” said Robert Hough.
Stop. Just stop it. Common sense has no place in this debate.
 
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RetroActive said:
Did anyone catch the latest Frontline "The Untouchables"?
DOJ COMPLAINS: 'The Untouchables Was A Hit Piece'
http://dailybail.com/home/doj-complains-the-untouchables-was-a-hit-piece.html

also PBS Nova Rise of the Drones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKluZFZoHs
Interesting stuff...

This ought to be in the Clinic (maybe is already is)...

In the Frontline piece, Kevin Perkins, associate deputy director of the FBI, said he and Breuer have argued "back and forth" over whether certain cases should have moved forward as criminal prosecutions. Perkins said he was at times frustrated and disappointed. But he said he accepted, as a "professional," the final decision.
Maybe Breuer pulled Birotte's string re: Lance Armstrong. Just sayin'
 
RetroActive said:
Thanks for the link. Frontline kicks serious ass. And I'm not just harping on Holder and the DOJ (though he is the most incompetent, and maybe the most corrupt AG in my lifetime, and yes I'm old enough to remember John Mitchell). Holder makes Alberto Gonzalez look like RFK.

It's about time someone other than a few bloggers finally stood up, spoke out and fought back. Huge props to Martin Smith and Frontline for doing so.
 
Mar 18, 2009
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RetroActive said:
I've heard reports that they had to shut it down early because it turned into more of a private gun sales event outside the police buy-back.
Sounds like a win for everyone. People who don't want their guns have an opportunity to get rid of them, and those who want more have the opportunity to buy at reduced prices. That is the power of capitalism.
 
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RetroActive said:
You'll love this:
Obama to Top Brass- "Will you fire on American Citizens"? .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABAlJqEBpdI&list=FLg2B7yMPoMHNYc2uhwnArfA

It's believed to be Boykin that set the leak in motion.
I'll try and watch The Untouchables tomorrow. It is, of course, criminal that the administration has not brought any of these leeches to 'justice'.

As for this link, I stopped as soon as he started about Obama's "socialist-Marxist" agenda. You'd think a man of his education and background would know better. I'm sure the scenario they would have in mind if there is any substance to this 'story' is the specter of armed to the teeth birthers, preppers, and other assorted heavy weapon totin' backwoods wingnuts presenting an organized threat to life as we know it today. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:
 
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Amsterhammer said:
I'll try and watch The Untouchables tomorrow. It is, of course, criminal that the administration has not brought any of these leeches to 'justice'.

As for this link, I stopped as soon as he started about Obama's "socialist-Marxist" agenda. You'd think a man of his education and background would know better. I'm sure the scenario they would have in mind if there is any substance to this 'story' is the specter of armed to the teeth birthers, preppers, and other assorted heavy weapon totin' backwoods wingnuts presenting an organized threat to life as we know it today. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:
Oh it's true. It's on the internet
 
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Amsterhammer said:
I'll try and watch The Untouchables tomorrow. It is, of course, criminal that the administration has not brought any of these leeches to 'justice'.

As for this link, I stopped as soon as he started about Obama's "socialist-Marxist" agenda. You'd think a man of his education and background would know better. I'm sure the scenario they would have in mind if there is any substance to this 'story' is the specter of armed to the teeth birthers, preppers, and other assorted heavy weapon totin' backwoods wingnuts presenting an organized threat to life as we know it today. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:
You really shouldn't watch him in this interview then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76h7bKc_-YI&list=HL1359424227

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RetroActive said:
Doesn't capitalism require capital? Sooo yesterday, using all these old fashioned terms.
Guns are capital. When the zombie apocalypse comes, guns will be one of the few forms of capital that is really worth anything. Plus, you will be able to use guns to take all other forms of capital from unarmed moonbats like Amster.
 
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RetroActive said:
He's making the rounds. True/false? Don't know, it'll get feathers ruffled though. I look into my crystal ball and predict societal madness.:eek:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this in emails. I have some very "political" customers and vendors
 
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BroDeal said:
Guns are capital. When the zombie apocalypse comes, guns will be one of the few forms of capital that is really worth anything.
Plus, you will be able to use guns to take all other forms of capital from unarmed moonbats like Amster.


Oh man.... Beer out the nose over that.
 
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RetroActive said:
That would be theft. Amster better get a gun!
Theft is the heart of capitalism, and it is easy when the marks don't believe in owning weapons...or even defending themselves.
 
BroDeal said:
Guns are capital. When the zombie apocalypse comes, guns will be one of the few forms of capital that is really worth anything. Plus, you will be able to use guns to take all other forms of capital from unarmed moonbats like Amster.
Guns may be currency, but in the US at least (and demonstrably elsewhere--even "third world" countries) they are not capital. Read up.


As to the marks, you're getting more primitive by the day. The marks are taken continuously by far more subtle means than firearms.
 
Scott SoCal said:
Excellent. This should be required reading for Velocity, MarkVw, Rhubarb and Amster.

No slight, just read it.




Bingo.
"But we do not quibble about the methods by which we practice our First Amendment rights because methodology is not the point. Red herring arguments about types of ammunition or magazine capacity or handguns versus rifles are just that -- red herrings. They distract us from the underlying purpose of that right -- to ensure a free society that can hold its government accountable. The Second Amendment is no more about guns than the First Amendment is about quill pens."

Not remotely analogous.
 
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BroDeal said:
Uh-oh. Someone at the event possessed a bit of common sense about gun buybacks.

“It’s a silly idea because these people that turn the guns in are not the ones that are the problem in the country today,” said Robert Hough.
And hey, isn't it just dandy that private individuals can buy Stinger missile launchers in this country? Fantastic. That's just great. Just great. 2nd Amendment ftw!

btw in the good ol' US of A you are just as likely to die by gun as you are in a traffic accident.

Deaths from traffic accidents have dropped dramatically over the last 10 years, while firearm-related fatalities rose for decades before leveling off in the past decade, a USA TODAY analysis of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows.Meanwhile, the rate of firearms deaths has exceeded traffic fatalities in several states, including Arizona, Colorado, the District of Columbia, Michigan, Nevada and Oregon, records show. The rate is equal in Ohio and Pennsylvania. In the United States in 2010, the rate of firearm deaths was 10 people per 100,000, while for traffic accidents it was 12 per 100,000. Firearm-related deaths totaled 31,672 in 2010.
So when it comes to cars, we institute preventative safety measures to reduce the chances of being killed in a traffic accident and as a result fewer people are killed by car. And we do the same with guns...oh wait, right, haha sorry totally forgot, no we don't do anything except make it easier to get a gun. We might be the only country in the world where you're just as likely to be shot as to be in a car accident. 2nd Amendment!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/09/guns-traffic-deaths-rates/1784595/
 
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VeloCity said:
And hey, isn't it just dandy that private individuals can buy Stinger missile launchers in this country? Fantastic. That's just great. Just great. 2nd Amendment ftw!

btw in the good ol' US of A you are just as likely to die by gun as you are in a traffic accident.

So when it comes to cars, we institute preventative safety measures to reduce the chances of being killed in a traffic accident and as a result fewer people are killed by car. And we do the same with guns...oh wait, right, haha sorry totally forgot, no we don't do anything except make it easier to get a gun. We might be the only country in the world where you're just as likely to be shot as to be in a car accident. 2nd Amendment!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/09/guns-traffic-deaths-rates/1784595/
As a great man once said, there you go again. Goosing stats with suicide deaths. If you have to be that dishonest then it is a sure sign that your position has serious flaws.
 
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VeloCity said:
And hey, isn't it just dandy that private individuals can buy Stinger missile launchers in this country? Fantastic. That's just great. Just great. 2nd Amendment ftw!
You don't want to see Blackhawk Down in a place like, say, Miami?:eek:
 
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VeloCity said:
And hey, isn't it just dandy that private individuals can buy Stinger missile launchers in this country? Fantastic. That's just great. Just great. 2nd Amendment ftw!

btw in the good ol' US of A you are just as likely to die by gun as you are in a traffic accident.



So when it comes to cars, we institute preventative safety measures to reduce the chances of being killed in a traffic accident and as a result fewer people are killed by car. And we do the same with guns...oh wait, right, haha sorry totally forgot, no we don't do anything except make it easier to get a gun. We might be the only country in the world where you're just as likely to be shot as to be in a car accident. 2nd Amendment!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/09/guns-traffic-deaths-rates/1784595/
It wasn't a stinger missle, but hey, why let facts get in the way of your hysteria.

We might be the only country in the world where you're just as likely to be shot as to be in a car accident.
Yeah, you are only off by a little. In 2010 there were 10.8 million auto accidents in the US. There were fewer than 75,000 people with gun wounds both intentional and unintentional. Of those shot, alittle over 30,000 died and of those, a little over 19,000 were suicide.

Btw, if you are serious about reducing traffic deaths then let's reduce the speed limit everywhere to 5mph. Added bonus is a huge reduction in fossil fuel consumption.
 
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