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Zam_Olyas said:
A lot of racist comments for sure.

But why aren't a couple of questions asked of him.

First, the cops came into a home of a convicted felon who buy law is prohibited from owning guns.

"Why did you think it is okay to own an illegal gun since you cannot legally own one? You know the law, convicted felons cannot own a gun. Didn't you bring this pain onto your own family?"

Second, you and your body guard where acquitted of murder over a shooting death.

"While you have said you don't believe in guns anymore, is your current security detail armed when they go out with you? You say you are now anti-gun but your staff used one in self defense. How do you explain this in the current gun debate? Are some people allowed guns for protection but others are not?"

Still have not been able to find a non-edited version, but this one is close. The comments that he made on the gang side are pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqRUktLz7ks

Favorite paraphrase is, "we need to look at laws that were set in the 1830's and make them modern". Oops 2nd amendment a touch older:)

Once again the gang side was good; overall the interview while somewhat gun related, was still Snoop self promotion.
 
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Barack Obama vowed to take action to close the controversial prison camp at Guantánamo Bay on Tuesday, declaring that he did not want any of its hunger-striking inmates to die of starvation.

At a press conference in Washington, Obama said it was not sustainable to keep the Guantánamo open, warning its continued existence was a "recruitment tool" for extremists. The president promised to take the issue back to Congress, which blocked his earlier attempts to fulfill a 2008 campaign promise to close the camp.
There are about 166 inmates at Guantánamo, of whom about half have been cleared for transfer or release. Nearly all inmates have been held without charge – some for as long as 11 years – and earlier this year the State Department office meant to deal with resettling Guantánamo prisoners was closed down. Lawyers and human rights advocates say that despair at their prospects meant that some form of protest was inevitable
In order to close the base and either release or relocate the camp's inmates, Obama is likely to need the support of Republicans who control the House of Representatives and are known for their hardline approach to national security issues. But Obama said he was ready to make the argument that the camp's closure would make America safer in the long-run, ending what has become a catastrophic blight on America's international reputation for human rights policy.

"The idea that we would still maintain forever a group of individuals who have not been tried, that is contrary to who we are. It is contrary to our interests and needs to stop," he said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/30/obama-guantanamo-hunger-strike-worsens

Does anyone believe there is the remotest chance of Gitmo closure given the climate of anti-Muslim hysteria amongst the right? Not me.
 
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Uh oh.


Poll: Obamacare Support Nosedives To Tie Record Low


And since public opinion seems to be the driver of the gun control debate, I guess, in the interest of consistency, Velo won't mind if we go ahead and block the ACA.

More than half of Americans (53 percent) support efforts to change or block the law, while only a third (33 percent) believe opponents should accept Obamacare as the law of the land, down from 40 percent since the beginning of the year.
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/poll-obamacare-support-nosedives-tie-record-low
 
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Obama is not an advanced Liberal or even a moderate left winger, but the difference between what he says he will do and what he actually does has a lot to do with the right wing fanatics (Republicans) in the House and Senate, who spend their every waking hour trying to block anything that the "Muslim Radical Socialist" tries to do.:rolleyes:
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Obama is not an advanced Liberal or even a moderate left winger, but the difference between what he says he will do and what he actually does has a lot to do with the right wing fanatics (Republicans) in the House and Senate, who spend their every waking hour trying to block anything that the "Muslim Radical Socialist" tries to do.:rolleyes:
Obama is Richard Nixon (without the pure evil part).
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Obama is not an advanced Liberal or even a moderate left winger, but the difference between what he says he will do and what he actually does has a lot to do with the right wing fanatics (Republicans) in the House and Senate, who spend their every waking hour trying to block anything that the "Muslim Radical Socialist" tries to do.:rolleyes:
Oh.

It's someone else's fault.

Our presidents new motto: The buck stops with the minority congress.:rolleyes:
 
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Scott SoCal said:
I know. It's tough to defend.
OK I must admit I fell back on that just because I am tired of arguing every single nit that you care to pick. But since you have called me out.
A House and Senate minority can effectively keep anything from happening in Washington these days, especially if they have big business money behind them. I know you don't want to believe this so I will let you go off into happy happy neverland, where people are free to do what they want, and I just want to get high.............
On the black thing, you are either very stupid or you just can't imagine that other people with the same political viewpoint as yourself may have arrived at it from a different angle. Any public comment page regarding anything that Obama does is absolutely chock full of racist comments. Those are "your people" you chose 'em, live with 'em.
Finally, a president could do a whole lot worse these days than to be compared to Jimmy Carter, sadly Obama is not even close yet.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Obama is not an advanced Liberal or even a moderate left winger, but the difference between what he says he will do and what he actually does has a lot to do with the right wing fanatics (Republicans) in the House and Senate, who spend their every waking hour trying to block anything that the "Muslim Radical Socialist" tries to do.:rolleyes:
Obama is a corporate Uncle Tom.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
OK I must admit I fell back on that just because I am tired of arguing every single nit that you care to pick. But since you have called me out.
A House and Senate minority can effectively keep anything from happening in Washington these days, especially if they have big business money behind them. I know you don't want to believe this so I will let you go off into happy happy neverland, where people are free to do what they want, and I just want to get high.............
On the black thing, you are either very stupid or you just can't imagine that other people with the same political viewpoint as yourself may have arrived at it from a different angle. Any public comment page regarding anything that Obama does is absolutely chock full of racist comments. Those are "your people" you chose 'em, live with 'em.
Finally, a president could do a whole lot worse these days than to be compared to Jimmy Carter, sadly Obama is not even close yet.
Funny how presidents past were somehow able to build consensus on important legislation.

Obama never even tried. How many R votes did ACA get? Zero. That's right. Zero.

But he crammed it down their throats anyways and has taken any opportunity to literally try and destroy the R party. Fine with me, just don't cry about lack of cooperation. Agreed?

The black thing is a smokescreen. It only matters to an extremely small feckless group of racists mostly on the right that wield absolutely no political power whatsoever. The David Duke wing. What did they win? That's right... Nothin'.

On the black thing, you are either very stupid or you just can't imagine that other people with the same political viewpoint as yourself may have arrived at it from a different angle. Any public comment page regarding anything that Obama does is absolutely chock full of racist comments. Those are "your people" you chose 'em, live with 'em.
In the first sentence you don't lump me in with other people with the same political viewpoint. Then, you lump me in with people with the same political viewpoint... "my people."

It's confusing.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
Uh oh.


Poll: Obamacare Support Nosedives To Tie Record Low


And since public opinion seems to be the driver of the gun control debate, I guess, in the interest of consistency, Velo won't mind if we go ahead and block the ACA.



http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/poll-obamacare-support-nosedives-tie-record-low
More good news.

Spring Slowdown Paints Ugly Picture for Jobs

"Nearly every industry has seen slower growth since the beginning of the year," Moody's economist Mark Zandi said on CNBC. "Smaller businesses are experiencing much weaker growth."
Small businesses accounted for 50,000 of the new positions in April, but Zandi noted that the sector is seeing a slowdown likely attributable to the onset of the Affordable Care Act national healthcare plan.

Companies with more than 50 employees will fall under the umbrella of the plan, also known as Obamacare.

"The data seems to be suggesting healthcare is having an impact," Zandi said.
Oh my God, really?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100693906


Edit: may as well keep piling on.

'Real' Jobless Rate Still Above 10% In Most States

And while the numbers may make some blink or gasp, the mere size of gross domestic product won't hide the reality that in terms of actual growth, this is also the worst economy in 83 years.

GDP growth is in the midst of its longest sub-3 percent annual growth rate since 1929, the beginning of the Great Depression, according to Bespoke Investment Group. The economy hasn't topped 3 percent since 2005—before Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke took over—and is unlikely to do so this year.
That is something to crow over.

Pento points out that no matter what the government does, it can't mask that revenue collections have been nearly stagnant over the past six years—a metric that as much as anything else outside of employment indicates true growth, or the lack thereof. And that has come as public debt has soared by $7 trillion.

"The fact is that the U.S. economy isn't growing fast enough to significantly increase the revenue to the government, but our debt is still soaring," Pento said. "It's a shame they won't just implement real measures to grow the economy like reduce regulations, simplify the tax code and balance the budget."
Yeah. Not really rocket science. But it does just beg the question; why isn't the administration interested in a growing, thriving economy?

Answer? Rabid ideology, or as Velo says, purity.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100691168
 
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Pretty much says it all.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/inhofe-gun-conspiracy-theory.php?ref=fpa

Republican lawmakers are pushing legislation aimed at combating a threat to gun rights that even the National Rifle Association has described as pure fiction.

A bill introduced late last week by Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) and Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK) would ban federal agencies, excluding the Pentagon, from buying more ammunition during a six-month period if it currently possesses more than its monthly averages during the Bush administration.

The conspiracy theory that incubated the bill is that the Obama administration is trying to buy up bullets so ordinary Americans have less access to them in the marketplace.

Last fall, the NRA issued a statement saying the claim was being pushed in an “Internet rumor mill” and was designed to “stir up fear.” The “more incendiary authors,” the group said, “suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.”
When you start to make even the NRA look sane by comparison, you might have a problem. Although no surprise that it's Inhofe, who has trouble with reality anyway.
 
Scott SoCal said:
More good news.

Spring Slowdown Paints Ugly Picture for Jobs





Oh my God, really?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100693906


Edit: may as well keep piling on.

'Real' Jobless Rate Still Above 10% In Most States



That is something to crow over.



Yeah. Not really rocket science. But it does just beg the question; why isn't the administration interested in a growing, thriving economy?

Answer? Rabid ideology, or as Velo says, purity.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100691168
Of course there's no pure ideology driving the remarks of a man who manages portfolio strategies?
 
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Shocking.

A study out today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences examined attitudes about energy efficiency in liberals and conservatives, and found that promoting energy-efficient products and services on the basis of their environmental benefits actually turned conservatives off from picking them. The researchers first quizzed participants on how much they value various benefits of energy efficiency, including reducing carbon emissions, reducing foreign oil dependence, and reducing how much consumers pay for energy; cutting emissions appealed to conservatives the least.
http://grist.org/climate-energy/why-do-conservatives-like-to-waste-energy/
 
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BroDeal said:
Does anyone think Obama really gives a damn? Stop listening to what Obama says and pay attention to what he does. Take everything Bush did and Obama has gone further.
er, what to do with Gitmo is Congress' decision, and so far they've blocked every action Obama's proposed.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/04/obama-guantanamo-congress/64729/

The one thing Obama did screw up was banning detainee transfers to Yemen. That was done in the heat of the moment and was a mistake.

But it doesn't really matter: Rs (and many Ds, but mostly Rs) have made it clear that Gitmo will not be closed, nor will detainees be transferred to prisons in the US.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/senate-republicans-vow-to-keep-guantanamo-bay-open.php

In response to the Obama administration’s renewed efforts to close the Guantanamo Bay prison, Senate Republicans introduced legislation on Wednesday that would codify the detention facility as the primary location for current and future detainees.

“Attorney General Holder and President Obama: Guantanamo Bay is not going to close,” Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said at a press conference introducing the bill. “I respect Holder, but let me say categorically there is no pathway forward when it comes to closing Guantanamo in the foreseeable future.”
So now what? Can't move the detainees to the US, can't return them to their homelands, and not a chance Obama can do anything without Rs trying everything they can to obstruct.
 
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VeloCity said:
er, what to do with Gitmo is Congress' decision, and so far they've blocked every action Obama's proposed.
Congress did not give the order to assassinate an American citizen without trial.
 
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BroDeal said:
Congress did not give the order to assassinate an American citizen without trial.
Yeah, they basically did. Congress granted the president - Bush at the time - authorization to "fight and kill terrorists" by passing the AUMF.

“That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations or persons he determines planned, authorized, harbored, committed, or aided in the planning or commission of the attacks against the United States that occurred on September 11, 2001, and to deter and pre-empt any future acts of terrorism or aggression against the United States”. This granted permission to President Bush to do whatever he thought was necessary to pursue al-Qaeda. This authority was extended to President Obama when he took office in 2007 and thus is still in effect today. There are no restrictions regarding the physical location of where this law is applied. It only states that the President has the “authority to use all necessary and appropriate force” this could be interpreted to mean that the President can attack al-Qaeda anywhere in the world
If you declare yourself an enemy of the US and an ally of al Qaeda, according to the AUMF you're fair game. Maybe Congress should've thought it through a bit more carefully, eh? btw I'm not defending the use of drones - like Gitmo and Bush's detentions and waterboarding the entire drone policy is a national disgrace and should be outlawed.

As for Gitmo, Obama can't unilaterally shut it down - Congress would have to lift a ban on transferring prisoners to the US. That ain't going to happen. To repatriate, other countries - either homelands or third-parties - would have to be willing to accept detainees. With a few exceptions like that British citizen, that's not happening either. There's not a whole lot Obama can do if neither the US nor any other country is willing to accept the detainees. They have to go somewhere first.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
He's a more polished Jimmy Carter.
Which would make GW Bush a less polished Nixon-Hoover hybrid. Good think we didn't vote for him then...oh wait, you did. Twice.
 
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