UAE-Team Emirates thread

[yaco]

Del Toro was never going to be a factor in GC at the Vuelta. His level was nowhere near Pogacar's first year in the peleton.

 

[Rob5091]

Matxin leaving UAE?
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...o-has-brought-in-tadej-pogacar-and-juan-ayuso

The Spanish scout was brought into the team several years ago after proving his worth at Soudal - Quick-Step and quickly became a big and important influence in the team, having a key role in the signing of riders such as Tadej Pogacar and Juan Ayuso with whom he is very close with. Besides a scout, he is also a sports manager in the Emirati team, and often the team's voice during races where he is always open to talk to fans and journalists alike. Spanish newspaper AS reports now that Matxin's contract is ending at the end of this year but it has not been renewed. It is unclear whether it still will be or if 2024 will really be the final chapter of Matxin in UAE.

Original article at (in Spanish) - https://as.com/ciclismo/vuelta_espana/matxin-fin-de-contrato-con-el-uae-renovacion-sin-firmar-n/

 

[Slavique Nuke]

More clickbait crap from cyclinguptodate

From the original AS article:

Matxin has outside offers on the table... although the intention of both parties is to renew. Therefore, there are matters to be dealt with, something that will be done in the next few days, taking advantage of the presence of the Italian Mauro Gianetti (the CEO) at La Vuelta these days.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833505660333445286

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1833505660333445286

 

[Offline]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833505660333445286

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1833505660333445286

Good!

Matxin - Sports Manager
Vanthourenhout - Head Sports Director

for next year?

 

[Berniece]

Good!

Matxin - Sports Manager
Vanthourenhout - Head Sports Director

for next year?

Press conference from Vanthourenhout in 40min. But it wouldn't make sense to already disclose his new employer. If it's UAE, and he still has to coach the WC... That would be a conflict of interest.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Press conference from Vanthourenhout in 40min. But it wouldn't make sense to already disclose his new employer. If it's UAE, and he still has to coach the WC... That would be a conflict of interest.

Why? It's like Wellens riding for Belguim while being employed by UAE.

 

[Berniece]

Why? It's like Wellens riding for Belguim while being employed by UAE.

Because there is only 1 director, and Wellens can be replaced by 7 other riders. There is a reason why this person can't be employed by a team, at least in Belgium.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Ayuso having a grand old time with the lads!

 

[Offline]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837527055422181673

View: https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1837527055422181673


Team Pogacar

 

[Tim Cahill]

Baroncini deserved that after having to try and mediate the Soler's of the world in the Vuelta.

They need 10 more wins to get Columbia - HTC on FirstCycling, 2009, the stacked one with Cavendish, Greipel, EBH

2009 Team Columbia - HTC

Team Columbia - HTC (2009) is a UCI Pro Team cycling team from USA.

firstcycling.com

 

[SHAD0W93]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837527055422181673

View: https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1837527055422181673


Team Pogacar

Soler is more likely to help Pog vs Ayuso.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Ayuso having a grand old time with the lads!

Every party has one of those!

 

[Sciatic]

Surprised that this NY Times article, although mainly focused on the NBA, doesn’t include a mention of the UAE team we know so well.

Opinion | The N.B.A. Is Partnering With a Repressive Regime

How can the N.B.A. square its profession of high ideals with doing business with a repressive government?

www.nytimes.com

 

[Slavique Nuke]

You have to respect how tirelessly and shamelessly the US spreads propaganda and pretends that they are not the biggest supporter and enabler of the biggest rouge state in the world. Even on their own they are at least in the top 5 in the rouge state rankings, not counting their support for Israel.

Almost all sporting events in the US are like a military parade of a third world dictatorship. Since the regime there uses sport only for jingoistic propaganda as it is the main lifeline of the so-called "bipartisan" oligarchy.

 

[Netserk]

Surprised that this NY Times article, although mainly focused on the NBA, doesn’t include a mention of the UAE team we know so well.

Opinion | The N.B.A. Is Partnering With a Repressive Regime

How can the N.B.A. square its profession of high ideals with doing business with a repressive government?

www.nytimes.com

I don't get what tension one might expect from such a combination. You (profess to) have ideals and you do business. What is there to square? What is the coherent alternative? I think such problematisations are usually raised from a confused stance with uninterrogated premises that would lead to very extreme conclusions if fully fleshed out. Must we abandon all ideals in order to engage with the real world, messy as it is? Must all trade and collaboration between "good" and "bad" states end to ensure the purity of the "good"?

Or more relevant for this thread: what is so wrong with "sportswashing"? What are the petrodollars better spent on?

 

[Salvarani]

I don't get what tension one might expect from such a combination. You (profess to) have ideals and you do business. What is there to square? What is the coherent alternative? I think such problematisations are usually raised from a confused stance with uninterrogated premises that would lead to very extreme conclusions if fully fleshed out. Must we abandon all ideals in order to engage with the real world, messy as it is? Must all trade and collaboration between "good" and "bad" states end to ensure the purity of the "good"?

Or more relevant for this thread: what is so wrong with "sportswashing"? What are the petrodollars better spent on?

Really? You cant come up with anything. Ok.

 

[Netserk]

Really? You cant come up with anything. Ok.

It's not my money. I don't think giving it all to charity is on the table (although sponsoring cycling almost qualifies for that).

Which of their alternative investments are better to you?

 

[Salvarani]

It's not my money. I don't think giving it all to charity is on the table (although sponsoring cycling almost qualifies for that).

Which of their alternative investments are better to you?

Im not trying to get political.... just that your post was off-putting, ignorant and distasteful.

We move on.

 

[Sciatic]

I don't get what tension one might expect from such a combination. You (profess to) have ideals and you do business. What is there to square? What is the coherent alternative? I think such problematisations are usually raised from a confused stance with uninterrogated premises that would lead to very extreme conclusions if fully fleshed out. Must we abandon all ideals in order to engage with the real world, messy as it is? Must all trade and collaboration between "good" and "bad" states end to ensure the purity of the "good"?

Or more relevant for this thread: what is so wrong with "sportswashing"? What are the petrodollars better spent on?

It’s a hopeless cause because there seems to be an insatiable appetite for bullsh*t these days. I just don’t want to hear FIFA or the NBA or UCI give us the “growing the sport” bull when it’s purely about making money.

 

[Netserk]

It’s a hopeless cause because there seems to be an insatiable appetite for bullsh*t these days. I just don’t want to hear FIFA or the NBA or UCI give us the “growing the sport” bull when it’s purely about making money.

Unfortunately, naked honesty would likely be received worse.

 

[Sciatic]

Unfortunately, naked honesty would likely be received worse.

So True—like I said, it’s a hopeless cause.

 

[magliaroz]

Not sure if this is the right place to say this, but I really hope UAE is not going to be allowed to give the rainbow jersey the same treatment they give to NC jerseys.
I've never seen a team f*ck up a WC jersey before so I guess UCI actually applies the rules at least in this case?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not sure if this is the right place to say this, but I really hope UAE is not going to be allowed to give the rainbow jersey the same treatment they give to NC jerseys.
I've never seen a team f*ck up a WC jersey before so I guess UCI actually applies the rules at least in this case?

They can't so don't be worry

 

[YavorD]

Not sure if this is the right place to say this, but I really hope UAE is not going to be allowed to give the rainbow jersey the same treatment they give to NC jerseys.
I've never seen a team f*ck up a WC jersey before so I guess UCI actually applies the rules at least in this case?

If Pogacar repeats this year he'll be wearing thе rainbow jersey like 10 days