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El Imbatido said:So basically the UCI spent $220,000 on getting a dvd out to riders showing them how to fill out all the forms and paperwork so when they do get busted they can't say 'well i didn't know'.
pedaling squares said:I would love to believe that a DVD about doping will convince pro cyclists not to take the unethical path. I would also love to believe in the Easter Bunny. A young cyclist watches a DVD about ethics and thinks, "This is wrong. Maybe I should struggle along as a clean rider in a dirty peloton." He knows that the clean path might lead to a hard battle just to secure a contract. And what benefits might the dirty path lead to?
+1.Dr. Maserati said:I have no problem in highlighting when the UCI makes blunders - but I think this is a good initiative as educating the riders is part of that process.
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Escarabajo said:Even if done at high cost or inefficiently, I think something is better than nothing. Little by little you get to higher improvements. In previous companies where I have worked they have DVD's and similar educating stuff to help the employees the ethical ways and correct procedures to operate within the company. This won't stop the doping, but it helps to set a seed in the sub-conscience of every employee of what is wrong or good. It shows them legally where they stand also. This is an old practice.
Why not? Every solution starts with a good education. It is a good investment to change a bad culture. In some crowds it takes longer but it is the way to go. Education does not discriminate religion, race, age, sex or social statusRipper said:I partly disagree. I think at high cost or with poor efficiency, it could end up having an opposite result. It is not that education is not a good idea, I just don't think this delivery method, with this population, will work. I mean, in many respects, it may not even be the right population to educate!
Escarabajo said:Even if done at high cost or inefficiently, I think something is better than nothing. Little by little you get to higher improvements. In previous companies where I have worked they have DVD's and similar educating stuff to help the employees the ethical ways and correct procedures to operate within the company. This won't stop the doping, but it helps to set a seed in the sub-conscience of every employee of what is wrong or good. It shows them legally where they stand also. This is an old practice.
Escarabajo said:Why not? Every solution starts with a good education. It is a good investment to change a bad culture. In some crowds it takes longer but it is the way to go. Education does not discriminate religion, race, age, sex or social status
Good point. We probably need to get rid of the old managers and some senior riders first.Ripper said:Escarabajo, I agree with you on the benefits of education. What I am not sure about is whether the process that is being used will be effective. And sometimes if an education approach is not deemed very effective, or if other matters are not addressed at the same time (e.g. corruption at the upper levels of the sport), it can be very counter productive. This can be especially true when teaching adults, as cynicism can play a major factor.
My comment about the population was more a swipe at senior riders, team management, and team sponsors
Ripper said:Escarabajo, I agree with you on the benefits of education. What I am not sure about is whether the process that is being used will be effective. And sometimes if an education approach is not deemed very effective, or if other matters are not addressed at the same time (e.g. corruption at the upper levels of the sport), it can be very counter productive. This can be especially true when teaching adults, as cynicism can play a major factor.
The UCI is anything but Catholic school.the big ring said:It'd be like sex education at a christian school, "It's bad, don't do it", but contrary to this message, it's not entirely dangerous if you're careful, it's not "bad" per se and most of the cool kids do it. The heroes, the wealthy ones you aspire to.
Only with cycling, the better you get / the more effective you are at it, the more you tend to get paid.
I'd far rather $220,000 spent on streamlining and speeding up the dope / test / result process, so people who have been "caught" do not start and compete in TdF, and people who have been CONI'd out of Italy are dealt with asap so as to prevent results from being tainted and the need for retroactive placings.
The UCI is pleased to introduce you to True Champion or Cheat?, a new education programme aimed at fighting against doping, designed for riders of all levels and their support team.
The primary aim of the programme is to ensure riders fully understand their rights and responsibilities under the UCI Anti-Doping Rules and the World Anti-Doping Code.
BigBoat said:The UCI is anything but Catholic school.
They could take the riders crits halfway though a stage...Or test total body hemoglobin, set the hematocrit limit at 47% and dump blood doping from the Tour. Havnt done that... So whatever BS you see is just that, BS to keep the PR fire burning.
El Imbatido said:So basically the UCI spent $220,000 on getting a dvd out to riders showing them how to fill out all the forms and paperwork so when they do get busted they can't say 'well i didn't know'.
Am i reading this right???
EDIT: Jesus, i could have burnt them all those dvds for less then $220,000. I'll have to give me old mate Pat a ring and tell him he got ripped off.