Up to 31 athletes could be banned after Beijing retests

[TMP402]

Up to 31 athletes from six sports could be banned from competing at the Rio Games, Olympic chiefs have said.

The announcement comes after the International Olympic Committee (IOC) retested 454 selected doping samples from the 2008 Games in Beijing.

The IOC said the retests were conducted using the very latest scientific analysis methods.

It also revealed it is awaiting the results of 250 retests from the 2012 Olympics in London.

"All these measures are a powerful strike against the cheats we do not allow to win," IOC president Thomas Bach said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/36314823

 

[thehog]

Up to 31 athletes from six sports could be banned from competing at the Rio Games, Olympic chiefs have said.

The announcement comes after the International Olympic Committee (IOC) retested 454 selected doping samples from the 2008 Games in Beijing.

The IOC said the retests were conducted using the very latest scientific analysis methods.

It also revealed it is awaiting the results of 250 retests from the 2012 Olympics in London.

"All these measures are a powerful strike against the cheats we do not allow to win," IOC president Thomas Bach said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/36314823

Up to 31 athletes of the 454 Russians, Chinese we tested (forgetting to test anyone else) have tested positive.

 

[sniper]

i heard some retests were done on kenyan, ukranian and turkish athletes, too.
a fairly balanced sample.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I seem to remember reading only medallists were retested but now I can't find it. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Zypherov]

I wonder if any of the Chinese weight lifters are among them.

 

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[python]

if you want to know THE SPECIFICS re. who, why and when is the subject to the re-testing, read the full ioc document (the media quotes, as usual, are w/o the context and may be misleading):

http://www.olympic.org/news/the-ioc-takes-decisive-action-to-protect-the-clean-athletes-doped-athletes-from-beijing-london-and-sochi-all-targeted/249221

i had a chuckle reading the self-indulgent ioc creation when it referred to the ioc president and the chief science and medical officer as 'himself an olympic champion'

as if a reader would somehow suspend a plain logic, that to become an olympic champion over those sports profusely infested with dopers one would need to be a........yep.... a doper himself.

the degree of the sporting officials pompousness is comical. to me.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

if you want to know THE SPECIFICS re. who, why and when is the subject to the re-testing, read the full ioc document (the media quotes, as usual, are w/o the context and may be misleading):

http://www.olympic.org/news/the-ioc-takes-decisive-action-to-protect-the-clean-athletes-doped-athletes-from-beijing-london-and-sochi-all-targeted/249221

i had a chuckle reading the self-indulgent ioc creation when it referred to the ioc president and the chief science and medical officer as 'himself an olympic champion'

as if a reader would somehow suspend a plain logic, that to become an olympic champion over those sports profusely infested with dopers one would need to be a........yep.... a doper himself.

the degree of the sporting officials pompousness is comical. to me.

This whole thing is a big joke. The IOC is either run by a bunch of seriously incompetent people, or some seriously corrupt people. Probably both.

 

[blackcat]

Up to 31 athletes from six sports could be banned from competing at the Rio Games, Olympic chiefs have said.

The announcement comes after the International Olympic Committee (IOC) retested 454 selected doping samples from the 2008 Games in Beijing.

The IOC said the retests were conducted using the very latest scientific analysis methods.

It also revealed it is awaiting the results of 250 retests from the 2012 Olympics in London.

"All these measures are a powerful strike against the cheats we do not allow to win," IOC president Thomas Bach said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/36314823

wot about don caitlin's 1984 T&F qualifier samples under the CSI bluelight that came up flashing like monica lewinskys blue velvet dress.

 

[Oldermanish]

Re: Re:

if you want to know THE SPECIFICS re. who, why and when is the subject to the re-testing, read the full ioc document (the media quotes, as usual, are w/o the context and may be misleading):

http://www.olympic.org/news/the-ioc-takes-decisive-action-to-protect-the-clean-athletes-doped-athletes-from-beijing-london-and-sochi-all-targeted/249221

i had a chuckle reading the self-indulgent ioc creation when it referred to the ioc president and the chief science and medical officer as 'himself an olympic champion'

as if a reader would somehow suspend a plain logic, that to become an olympic champion over those sports profusely infested with dopers one would need to be a........yep.... a doper himself.

the degree of the sporting officials pompousness is comical. to me.

This whole thing is a big joke. The IOC is either run by a bunch of seriously incompetent people, or some seriously corrupt people. Probably both.[/quote]

You are correct and there is much evidence for both problems. As long as an American TV network has their viewing and advertising market keyed to how much they pay the IOC; fraud and malfeasance won't be a possibility...it will be the remain the modus operandi. How many US/Caribbean sprinters have been busted lately?

 

[el_angliru]

I Remember watching a Swedish TV news report with a hedline about Gustav Larsson possibly getting the Beijing TT Gold medal because Cancallara had delivered a positive doping test. These news were removed completely from Swedish TV -- even from teletext and their web-sites. We'll probably never know the full truth about what happened in Beijing 2008 (and Fabian's cancelled press conference).

 

[More Strides than Rides]

http://www.sport-express.ru/athletics/news/1003497/ reports 14 Russian names:
Maria Abakumov, javelin
Inga Abitova, 10000
Denis Alekseev, 4x400
Ekaterina Volkova 3,000 steeplechase
Nadezhda Evstyukhina, weightlifting
Anastasia Kapachinskaya, 4x400
Alexander Kornilov, rowing
Denis Nizhegorodov, racewalk
Aleksandr Pogorelov, decathlon
Tatyana Firova, 4x400
Julia Chermoshanskaya, 4x100
Anna Chicherova, high jump
Maria Shainova, weightlifting
Ivan YUSHKOV, shot put

 

[jahn]

Re:

Did they only test medal winners?

http://www.sport-express.ru/athletics/news/1003497/ reports 14 Russian names:
Maria Abakumov, javelin
...

How about she marry me then can be on the US program

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

http://www.sport-express.ru/athletics/news/1003497/ reports 14 Russian names:
Maria Abakumov, javelin
Inga Abitova, 10000
Denis Alekseev, 4x400
Ekaterina Volkova 3,000 steeplechase
Nadezhda Evstyukhina, weightlifting
Anastasia Kapachinskaya, 4x400
Alexander Kornilov, rowing
Denis Nizhegorodov, racewalk
Aleksandr Pogorelov, decathlon
Tatyana Firova, 4x400
Julia Chermoshanskaya, 4x100
Anna Chicherova, high jump
Maria Shainova, weightlifting
Ivan YUSHKOV, shot put

So I was a bit off. I thought there would be 20 Russians and 1 of each from the other 11 countries. The other ones will probably be some random competitors, perhaps people that didn't even compete.

 

[Random Direction]

A question - the 2014 Sochi switched samples, do we know if both the A and B samples were switched, or just the A ones?

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

A question - the 2014 Sochi switched samples, do we know if both the A and B samples were switched, or just the A ones?

Do we know if anything was switched in the first place? Or is the guy who conveniently left for sunny LA talking out of his @rs*? They really are trying to crack down on Russia. These retests, the meldonium saga. Then you have military build up in Romania. If it wasn't obvious before, it's plenty obvious now. The Russians won't be at the Rio Olympics. This will be a bigger hit on them than any possible sanction. Olympics are huge in Russia, from what I gather. Don't be surprised if the football team gets pulled from the Euro's and the 2018 World Cup gets move to another country.

 

[Cake]

Re: Re:

A question - the 2014 Sochi switched samples, do we know if both the A and B samples were switched, or just the A ones?

Do we know if anything was switched in the first place? Or is the guy who conveniently left for sunny LA talking out of his @rs*? They really are trying to crack down on Russia. These retests, the meldonium saga. Then you have military build up in Romania. If it wasn't obvious before, it's plenty obvious now. The Russians won't be at the Rio Olympics. This will be a bigger hit on them than any possible sanction. Olympics are huge in Russia, from what I gather. Don't be surprised if the football team gets pulled from the Euro's and the 2018 World Cup gets move to another country.

Nah, this is an under-the-bus exercise. The deal would be "right Russia, ping a few athletes so you can say you're getting tough & get let back in to Rio" "how many?" "between 10 and 20" "righto".

I expect the sequel to this will be Russia returning in time for Rio, followed by the IOC with some nauseating press release about how this will be "the cleanest games ever" etc etc

 

[blackcat]

Radcliffe or Carl Lewis or Usain Bolt among them?

oh, I misread the date stamp and the Olympiad.
carry on, as you were...


palava palava palava

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

Nah, this is an under-the-bus exercise. The deal would be "right Russia, ping a few athletes so you can say you're getting tough & get let back in to Rio" "how many?" "between 10 and 20" "righto".

I expect the sequel to this will be Russia returning in time for Rio, followed by the IOC with some nauseating press release about how this will be "the cleanest games ever" etc etc

actually the term that dearWiggo coined and baptised in a wildean shakespearen neologism was bus throw undery

[sic]

its not a german portmanteau, nope.

 

[blackcat]

I am not sure if mine was a neologism or the races actually exist, or I am conflating one race

Ronde va Dwarfthro
or
Dwarvesdoor vanVlaanderen

 

[blackcat]

also, the computer game programmers on PCM daily coded into the game Elisa Basso avec silicon front end and all and if you are like Prance you get to play leisure suit larry with a secret cookie

 

[winkybiker]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36373805

Yeah, I'll bet the she's totally shocked that she was caught.

 

[sniper]

Re:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36373805

Yeah, I'll bet the she's totally shocked that she was caught.

Russia was once a leading power in the field of doping innovation.
That was long ago though.
Seems like they're lagging far behind these days.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: Re:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36373805

Yeah, I'll bet the she's totally shocked that she was caught.

Russia was once a leading power in the field of doping innovation.
That was long ago though.
Seems like they're lagging far behind these days.

That was the Soviet Union, not just Russia. It's interesting that they skipped London testing, and went back to Beijing, 8 years ago. Wouldn't it make more sense to re-test more recent events? Or are they going back that far on purpose, to prove a point? When is Paula Radcliffe getting her comeuppance? Did Mo Farah ever get tested? What about the Americans? Who won the most medals in 2008 and 2012? Why weren't Gatlin and Gay banned for life? Gatlin was caught more than Di Luca and he gets to race in Rio and will probably get a couple medals, if form holds true. Why didn't the USOC get banned from prior Olympics, after it was revealed there was a massive coverup during the 90's? Perhaps it went back further, with Carl Lewis failing tests but having those tests swept under the rug and he consequently ended up competing in Seoul and winning a gold (after Johnson was used as a scapegoat and DQ'd). The double standards and the hypocrisy is quite nauseating.

BTW, this isn't meant for you, this is just a general response to this ongoing 'investigation.' It looks more like a, well if I get to throw enough mud at the guy, he won't be able to stand up and throw mud back, so I'll keep throwing it.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36373805

Yeah, I'll bet the she's totally shocked that she was caught.

Russia was once a leading power in the field of doping innovation.
That was long ago though.
Seems like they're lagging far behind these days.

That was the Soviet Union, not just Russia. It's interesting that they skipped London testing, and went back to Beijing, 8 years ago. Wouldn't it make more sense to re-test more recent events? Or are they going back that far on purpose, to prove a point? When is Paula Radcliffe getting her comeuppance? Did Mo Farah ever get tested? What about the Americans? Who won the most medals in 2008 and 2012? Why weren't Gatlin and Gay banned for life? Gatlin was caught more than Di Luca and he gets to race in Rio and will probably get a couple medals, if form holds true. Why didn't the USOC get banned from prior Olympics, after it was revealed there was a massive coverup during the 90's? Perhaps it went back further, with Carl Lewis failing tests but having those tests swept under the rug and he consequently ended up competing in Seoul and winning a gold (after Johnson was used as a scapegoat and DQ'd). The double standards and the hypocrisy is quite nauseating.

BTW, this isn't meant for you, this is just a general response to this ongoing 'investigation.' It looks more like a, well if I get to throw enough mud at the guy, he won't be able to stand up and throw mud back, so I'll keep throwing it.

good post. I agree.
This whole thing has the word "agenda" written all over it.

The anti-Russia sentiments of course go way back.
From what I can tell, USOC was flooded with anti-USSR sentiments in the 60s, 70s, 80s, but were making friends with East and especially West Germany.
Also, and I'm no doubt oversimplifying here, but I think USOC has always had a strong lobby within the IOC.
I wouldn't be surprised if IOC is still populated with some old guys (maybe some old USOC folks) from back in the days who think they still have some scores to settle.

To clarify the post you replied to, what I meant to say is: it just seems like Russia currently have one of the poorest doping programs around, completely unable to let their athletes fly below the radar, which shouldn't be too difficult. Drug testing is still just an IQ test.
I think countries like Britain, USA and Germany are far ahead in that department. Better organized. And of course more protected, too.