USADA - Bruyneel, Celaya, Garcial del Moral, Ferrari, Marti

[red_flanders]

There are several others named in the investigation. Is anyone concerned about the witch hunt against them? Their rights? The taxpayer money being spent on these non-Americans? The lack of positive analytical findings against them?

I can't take the silence anymore, a thread is warranted.

 

[bobbins]

Witch Hunt?

Waste of Tax Payers Money?

Lack of Positive tests?

They have cheated us, the viewing public, out of fair cycle sport competitions for years and they must now face the consequences.

I hope someone brings a class-action suit against them to pay back costs associated with travelling to France to watch an event that they helped cheat to win.

 

[Race Radio]

There are several others named in the investigation. Is anyone concerned about the witch hunt against them? Their rights? The taxpayer money being spent on these non-Americans? The lack of positive analytical findings against them?

I can't take the silence anymore, a thread is warranted.

Yeah, but did they cure cancer?

 

[Anonymous]

There are several others named in the investigation. Is anyone concerned about the witch hunt against them? Their rights? The taxpayer money being spent on these non-Americans? The lack of positive analytical findings against them?

I can't take the silence anymore, a thread is warranted.

I think Ferrari will be banned from the sport forever. Oh, wait...

 

[stainlessguy1]

this is a global economy !

In case anyone doubts the ideology behind chasing non americans at tax-payers expense , this is a global economy and has been for a while. The industry has been preaching this for years and now its time to utilize the phrase. In a global economy one is not above the law, and a conspiracy is a conspiracy even if it involves members and other nationalities.

Time to walk the walk if industry can talk the talk, cycling has become a booming industry. It is an international industry. Sports have become the same. Rules were made and were broken and the instigators have as much of a price to pay as the athletes that were duped into playing the game along with the sponsorship pressures to perform .

To use the phrase * Hang em High * .....

 

[Benotti69]

Can somebody point to who funds USADA.

This tax payers BS is wearing thin.

It is trolling.

 

[stainlessguy1]

Can somebody point to who funds USADA.

This tax payers BS is wearing thin.

It is trolling.

YA , you are right , what would Wille Nelson sing . Lets put a few more of them bad boys in the Ground.
Find a tall oak tree........ Then meet back at the local salon. lol.

See no tax payers expense .

I think its a great American tradition, round up your boys and form a posee and go-git-em.

 

[JRTinMA]

Can somebody point to who funds USADA.

This tax payers BS is wearing thin.

It is trolling.

Its on their website someplace, search for it ffs. Its funded by a grant from the US government and contracts for services. So its fair to state it funded by taxpayers money at least in part.

 

[mikeNphilly]

Based in Colorado Springs, Colorado, USADA is a signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code, widely considered the basis for the strongest and strictest anti-doping programs in sports.[1][2] In 2001 the agency was recognized by the U.S. Congress as "the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States."[3] Though not a government body, the agency is partly funded by a U.S. federal grant through the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), with its remaining budget generated from contracts for anti-doping services with sport organizations, notably the United States Olympic Committee.[4]...From Wikipedia(believe what you will), some funding from a grant from the US Government..ie Tax Dollars, some from contracts, it is also a non-profit. Not sure how much tax dollars are involved, but I don't think it will make in a dent in our 14 trillion$ debt.

 

[Race Radio]

Its on their website someplace, search for it ffs. Its funded by a grant from the US government and contracts for services. So its fair to state it funded by taxpayers money at least in part.

USADA is only partially funded by a grant from the Government. The mandate for that grant is that they pursue dopers like Lance.

Should USADA break the law and ignore this mandate? Should they ignore all doping or just Lance's?

 

[washoezephyr1]

I'm not concerned with any of the five named's rights in the matter. JB and RaNT need the month of July off, (maybe one or two names on the RaNT preselection list without a doping involvement). The five need to be exposed, Armstrong confirmed, and the trails as they go followed through and who ever gets bull dozed-over in the mess, you made your own bed!

Without a purge and meaningful reset, the sport is meaningless. Get rid of the organized corruption, and if in the result we see a lessor peleton, but with less organized doping, then the sport benefits in the long run. Rearranging the results in the past is irrelevant.

I'm sick of Armstrong's lies, waiting for someone to suspend JB, and the press that can't do their homework in reporting.

Good topic, the five need to fry, and Bruyneel and Ferrari need to go to jail.

 

[Benotti69]

Its on their website someplace, search for it ffs. Its funded by a grant from the US government and contracts for services. So its fair to state it funded by taxpayers money at least in part.

So was US Postal and look at what they spent tax payers money on. Dopers. No one screaming blue murder to get that money back

 

[Cloxxki]

For for not keeping up with everyone, work happens.

Is Bruyneel also suspended by the UCI, as WTC suspended Lance? He seems slicks that anything in all that came out the past years.
Surely UCI will have no option but to take USADA's action seriously, even if they weren't allowed to play their role of moll in the operation, passively letting Lance and Johan down? There can't be any "looking into i" after the summer", now can there?

 

[red_flanders]

Yeah, but did they cure cancer?

You don't need 5 people to cure cancer. That's a one-man job.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Its on their website someplace, search for it ffs. Its funded by a grant from the US government and contracts for services. So its fair to state it funded by taxpayers money at least in part.

From memory it is 74% funded by the government and the rest comes form the Olmpic Committee.
Which actually is the same set up as every other national anti-doping agency.

 

[JRTinMA]

USADA is only partially funded by a grant from the Government. The mandate for that grant is that they pursue dopers like Lance.

troll babble

You are very excitable today, all I said was its funded by a grant and contracts, which actually implies partial government funding. So thanks for restating what I said.

 

[stainlessguy1]

You don't need 5 people to cure cancer. That's a one-man job.

Thats the funny part , in reality no one is ever going to cure cancer. If a total cure were found it would be kept a secret as there is too much money to be made by the millions of donations comming in and the band wagon effect of cancer fundraisers .
Millions of people are employed for cancer research around the world , and i bet lots of people make a killing on the fundraising foundations , because they are the indirect top of the food chain of those organizations .

Do you really think the pharma companies really want to find a cure , i mean really .....

 

[stainlessguy1]

From memory it is 74% funded by the government and the rest comes form the Olmpic Committee.
Which actually is the same set up as every other national anti-doping agency.

so where does the olympic committee get its money from ?...

 

[Benotti69]

so where does the olympic committee get its money from ?...

they plunder and pillage the host nations oh and all the sponsors get charged top dollar, tv rights are big bucks

 

[DirtyWorks]

Should USADA break the law and ignore this mandate? Should they ignore all doping or just Lance's?

Yes. IAAF among other Olympic sports wouldn't have to assume the charade of a bio-passport and get back to breaking records on television.

Look at all the good Wonderboy has done! Never mind the consequences of uncontrolled human experimentation.

Small price to pay for fabulous broadcasting revenues and a Nike athlete contract!

 

[DirtyWorks]

so where does the olympic committee get its money from ?...

Shh! As soon as you dig *just* a little you realize guys like Armstrong and Pat McQuaid are about average for the IOC. It is a welcome home for sports felons around the world.

Sit back and enjoy the Olympic show! Don't ever peek behind the curtain.

 

[learn to ride]

Bruyneel claims he is innocent of all charges

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/news/bruyneel-i-am-innocent-of-all-charges_224319

 

[DirtyWorks]

Still, the amazing thing about The Letter is it casts an awful light on the UCI and no one seems to be bothered.

The UCI is not bothered the doping doctors have steady work.
The UCI has two public cases of doping positives being suppressed and no one is asking how many more are hiding.
The UCI now has very public allegations that they can be bought.

Maybe 6 of the 12 people populating The Clinic have called for some substantial change. And yet, no public confidence crisis in the UCI.

 

[DirtyWorks]

/bruyneel-i-am-innocent-of-all-charges_224319

What a surprise.

Please don't link directly to VN. it only rewards their editorial policy. They have repeatedly shown themselves to be the propaganda outlet of the UCI and USAC at every possible opportunity.

If McQuaid pops up, another denial screed laced with personal attacks will be on VN first.

Maybe the better question to ask is: Who will McQuaid and Verbruggen sue at USADA this time?

 

[Benotti69]

Armstrong is calling it a witch hunt.

Bruyneel is off message with his protegé!

"I shall of course cooperate fully with the investigation, although I have no doubt the end result will be the same as all the other investigations over the years,” Bruyneel said via a statement on his website."

He will 'cooperate fully'?

I wonder does Bruyneel know the game is up as he would have more contacts inside cycling and know more of what USADA has, whereas Armstrong is focused on tri!