USADA saved my life!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/From-cancer-to-Olympics-twice-for-US-beach-volleyball-star-Jake-Gibb-073012

First the drug tester told American beach volleyball player Jake Gibb that he was suspended.
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Luckily for you, we are. Updated medal count.
Then he said to call a doctor.
A quick Internet search told Gibb the abnormal levels of hormones in his blood were most often found in pregnant women, steroid users and men with testicular cancer. A biopsy soon confirmed what he had already concluded. The doping ban was subsequently lifted, but Gibb was expected to miss the Olympics anyway while recovering.

''USADA actually saved his life,'' Stolfus told The Associated Press.
Strange World, isn't it? Is this "other side of the coin"? Please opine...
 
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It can happen, we had a local rider here who returned abnormally high testosterone values and upon further investigation happend to have testicular cancer and went for an operation.
 
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Diuretics can work, depends on the timing though.

Basically by simple dilution in the urine.
So wrt Armstrong (I am assuming I am not going off-topic because of the gist of the OP) was it likely he was using a masking agent to hide testosterone use hence his cancer never being picked up? I read on this board that there was a chance that the UCI was indebted to him because they never picked up his cancer during testing. But assuming he tried to cover it up he would have brought it upon himself to some extent?
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
So wrt Armstrong (I am assuming I am not going off-topic because of the gist of the OP) was it likely he was using a masking agent to hide testosterone use hence his cancer never being picked up? I read on this board that there was a chance that the UCI was indebted to him because they never picked up his cancer during testing. But assuming he tried to cover it up he would have brought it upon himself to some extent?
The UCI ignored it.

Armstorng's ownership of the UCI started long before the 2001 positive at the Tour de Swiss, which is why he was not concerned when he tested positive. He knew they would take care of it.

This is also why Verbruggen is so concerned right now. Cockroaches hate the light
 
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The UCI ignored it.

Armstorng's ownership of the UCI started long before the 2001 positive at the Tour de Swiss, which is why he was not concerned when he tested positive. He knew they would take care of it.

This is also why Verbruggen is so concerned right now. Cockroaches hate the light
Ah, so they thought he was positive for testosterone and ignored it but in fact it was due to the cancer. In that context it makes sense that they 'owed' him.
 
Don't be late Pedro said:
Ah, so they thought he was positive for testosterone and ignored it but in fact it was due to the cancer. In that context it makes sense that they 'owed' him.
Which explains the money flow Lance >>> UCI.

Services rendered. Satisfied customer.

Dave.
 
Don't be late Pedro said:
Ah, so they thought he was positive for testosterone and ignored it but in fact it was due to the cancer. In that context it makes sense that they 'owed' him.
They thought he was positive for beta-hCG. Normal range for men is 0 - 5 mIU/ml blood. Armstrong has used several different values, but one was 109000. So it is not like he was just a little bit positive.

It seems to me that he was probably using a masking agent. The lab would have seen the values and known it was not a normal case of an ahtlete using hCG after a steroid cycle.
 
Thats getting beyond my knowledge and comfort zone.

I know there are several forms of testicular cancer, and don't know which form LA had, and if it would have resulted in a raised testosterone level.
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
Ah, so they thought he was positive for testosterone and ignored it but in fact it was due to the cancer. In that context it makes sense that they 'owed' him.
Perhaps. However, Lance had symptoms that he ignored, in the same way the UCI ignored the test results. It wasn't until 10 months after the first symptom, that he went for medical help. By that time he had vomited blood. It's curious that he could 'blackmail' the UCI when he must have noticed changes taking place with his body. My speculation only.

EDIT: I'm not disputing that he had the UCI in his pocket after that - clearly he had! I'm looking at it from the angle of personal responsibility, he took an awful lot of time to go to the doctor even after experiencing serious symptoms.
 
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