USADA will investigate

[Barrus]

On LA's twitter this appeared:

Great to hear that @usada is investigating some of @si's claims. I look forward to being vindicated.

Anyone heard about this? And what are your opinions about this, if it does turn out to be true.
In my mind this can never be an independent investigation especially if you take all the history into account

 

[Race Radio]

Wonderboy still believes in miracles?

 

[Barrus]

Wonderboy still believes in miracles?

I already asked whether they already received their donation

 

[onefastgear]

You have to take into account what Armstrong's experience of vindicated is:

SCA case, settled before verdict = vindicated.

Vrijman 'investigation' into the retesting of 1999 samples = vindicated.

Sunday Times Story, settled before trial = vindicated.

The list goes on.

 

[barn yard]

who cares what USADA say when there is an FDA investigation in progress

 

[blackcat]

spelling aint Prance Gunderson's forte no?

 

[Berzin]

An investigation?

What are THEY going to NOT find that will vindicate Lance?

 

[python]

this reminds me my grandma that threatened me with complaining to the policeman when i, a growing boisterous kid ran away to play with my mates in the snow.

a pr b-shyt as armstrong knows travis better.

 

[Benotti69]

You have to take into account what Armstrong's experience of vindicated is:

SCA case, settled before verdict = vindicated.

Vrijman 'investigation' into the retesting of 1999 samples = vindicated.

Sunday Times Story, settled before trial = vindicated.

The list goes on.

but if you look at the reason's why they were settled you'll see that this is different. this is no libel case, where parties look at the cost of pursuing as opposed to making a settlement,

 

[bianchigirl]

USADA website confirms no such thing - which means:
1) Sir Prancelot is lying again - nothing new there
2) Wonderboy had an inside tip off - from whom, one wonders? And doesn't that look somewhat, no wait, very smelly?

 

[blackcat]

Prance, Prance Gunderson, 007.

Was 7, going to double 0 with a rocket.

 

[theswordsman]

Rupert Guinness wrote that Bill Stapleton arrived in Australia two days ago. Maybe he brought the news? I imagine they had a lot to talk about, and face to face is better than wiretapped phones.

 

[Roland Rat]

Didn't think Gunderson cared about the SI article, anyway.

Is that it?

 

[Anonymous]

apparently hes on sky sports news in a minute.

 

[theswordsman]

Fun fact: @USADA is actually a person in Tokyo who has a drawing of a bunny for their twitter photo - not to be confused with @usantidoping

 

[benzwire]

Fun fact: @USADA is actually a person in Tokyo who has a drawing of a bunny for their twitter photo - not to be confused with @usantidoping

He's on the case! There's some guy in Japan wondering WTF is going on! Funny!

 

[benzwire]

Lance tweets that this article was "spot on":

http://deadspin.com/5738218/the-case-against-the-case-against-lance-armstrong

It's basically a rip on Novitzky but it justifies doping as necessary. Armstrong agrees with this??? I think that he is eventually going to make the case that his doping was justified in that the ends justified the means, ie he was able to give hope to so many people afflicted with cancer.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Fun fact: @USADA is actually a person in Tokyo who has a drawing of a bunny for their twitter photo - not to be confused with @usantidoping

Haha - thats excellent. I hope they cash the check before LA notices.

On Lance's 'tweet' - as USADA would be limited to 8 years because of the Statute of Limitations he can feel confident if USADA limit themselves to the SI story.

Sadly for Lance - USADA have been in on this investigation sitting in with Novitzky, this will not be like Puerto.

 

[Tim_sleepless]

Lance tweets that this article was "spot on":

http://deadspin.com/5738218/the-case-against-the-case-against-lance-armstrong

It's basically a rip on Novitzky but it justifies doping as necessary. Armstrong agrees with this??? I think that he is eventually going to make the case that his doping was justified in that the ends justified the means, ie he was able to give hope to so many people afflicted with cancer.

Not only that, but the article also says

"We know that 15 of the last 23 Tour de France winners, counting Armstrong, have "doped" in one way or another. So when Sports Illustrated asks, "Was the miracle a mirage?" it's indulging in a lot of sham naivete about the essential nature of Armstrong's sport (and about sports in general). Is there anyone over the age of 10 who truly believes that a multi-cycle chemo patient with one nut is steaming all over the Alps without some sort of "unnatural" help?"

 

[BotanyBay]

USADA investigation inconclusive = vindicated

 

[eatyourvitamins]

That would have to be the least bullsh*t-shrouded admission to date would it not? No more flat denials. It's all damage control from here. You watch him turn public opinion with his coterie. I have a sick feeling that he is going to come out of this looking much better than he should.

In the end though... maybe it's only right. He is only a rider. Sure, he has perpetuated it and obviously used a lot of influence. But he has only gained that influence by virtue of his ever growing worth as brand over the years. He may or may not be a complete sociopathic B*stard. It's irrelevant. He was created, protected and perpetuated from a young age by a system, a system run by people who had far more power and choice in the matter.

This is not an excuse for Lance by any means, the guy needs to fall hard, there are many many others that deserve to fall harder though. Just wait for the scapegoats now. Dirty deals and quiet squeals. Most of the big sharks will stay alive. The system that controls the program aint going anywhere soon.

I'm still gonna keep a healthy supply of popcorn in the pantry this year...

 

[red_flanders]

Great to hear that @usada is investigating some of @si's claims. I look forward to being vindicated.

He seems strangely confident of being vindicated. I wonder why he doesn't feel similarly confident of being vindicated by the Federal investigation?

 

[DirtyWorks]

That would have to be the least bullsh*t-shrouded admission to date would it not? No more flat denials. It's all damage control from here. You watch him turn public opinion with his coterie. I have a sick feeling that he is going to come out of this looking much better than he should.

They are already trying the anti-hero approach. "In a sport where every winner is doped, Armstrong had PED's in his veins, a heart of gold and 7 TDF wins" It's like an awful film noir movie and those movies sell.

In the end though... maybe it's only right. He is only a rider.

This is a coward's excuse. There were a number of riders who really, actually were 'only a rider' and tried to come clean anyway. Bassons (sp?) comes to mind. (I think that was his name) The infamous "zip it" moment where Armstrong chased down a rider mentioning doping. I don't remember his name. Both riders vanished from the sport for being honest.

Sure, he has perpetuated it and obviously used a lot of influence. But....

No. There's no but anything. No excuse for that behavior. None. And now, like always, he's fishing for sympathy. This is the work of a child's mind.

The problem with giving an out is it enables the behavior. Condones it too.

This is not an excuse for Lance by any means, the guy needs to fall hard, there are many many others that deserve to fall harder though.

I don't buy the degrees of evil argument either. It also super-charges the anti-hero/hooker with a heart of gold theme.

 

[PotentialPro]

Is OJ's defense team in on this now? Do the cycling gloves fit or not?

 

[BotanyBay]

Is OJ's defense team in on this now? Do the cycling gloves fit or not?

They fit like Magic: